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Radical Islamism and Jihad ( 17 Nov 2013, NewAgeIslam.Com)

Malaysia: Wahhabi Radical Muslim Group Jati Declares War on Liberal Muslim NGOs

 

By Rahmah Ghazali

 November 16, 2013

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(From left) Jati secretary general Norman Toha, its president Datuk Dr Hasan Mohd Ali, deputy chairman Datuk Aidit Ghazali and treasurer Noor Azizan Abdul Majid during the press conference. - The Malaysian Insider pic by Afif Abd Halim, November 16, 2013.

Muslim group Jati has declared war against Comango for its alleged attempts to turn Malaysia into a liberal country in the name of human rights.

Comango stands for Coalition of Malaysian NGO’s in the Universal Periodic Review Process (UPR) and had submitted recommendations to the United Nations on the government’s alleged human rights violations.

Jati president, Datuk Dr Hasan Ali said that their attempts, among others, were to turn Malaysia into a “heaven” for apostasy, unnatural sex and deviant teachings.

“And their most rude demand is to call for the repeal of the Shariah law, which will eventually see the demise of Islamic laws that are a core foundation in Islam,” he told the press here.

Hasan, who is also a former PAS vice-president, said it was clear that the Comango’s action was the most “devious”.

“These kinds of people should not be given space and privilege to enjoy comfortable life in Malaysia. These are the wolves in sheep clothing.

“Based on their action, it is only appropriate for us to declare war against them because Malaysia doesn’t need these so-called Comango warriors,” he said.

Comango had come under fire from other Muslim activists, claiming that the group’s human rights recommendation to the UN was against the true teachings of Islam and the sovereignty of the Federal Constitution.

They have also been accused of calling for the freedom of religion, including renouncing Islam; the protection of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transsexual (LGBT) rights; the removal of Malay privileges, the freedom to embrace Syiah teachings; and the right for non-Muslims to use ‘Allah’ to refer to God.

He said the Jati will organise a briefing session to the public with the states’ religious councils and other NGOs on the danger Comango poses.

“Not only will the danger of their demands affect Islam and the Malays, it will also reshape the life of the 28 millions Malaysians,” said Hasan.

He also claimed that the country is already showing signs of disunity and the situation could get worse if any of the demands made by Comango was materialised.

“Therefore, Jati is urging all individuals involved in Comango to review their decision and think rationally,” he said.

Earlier, the group also praised the Sultan of Selangor, Sultan Sharifuddin Idris Shah who had recently called on the non-Muslims in the state to not refer to God as Allah.

The state ruler had also ordered that use of the world in the Bible and in the Bahasa Malaysia section of Herald be stopped immediately, to avoid causing confusion among Muslims in Selangor.

In the light of the decree, Jati secretary-general Norman Toha had warned the public, especially those who live in Selangor not to question the decree, or a police report will be lodged against them.

“We will not hesitate to lodge a police report against them because the Sultan’s decree is an order as it is coming from a head of state, a head of religion in Selangor and what he said was constitutional,” he said.

Source: http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2013/11/16/Muslim-group-Jati-declares-war-on-Comango.aspx

URL: http://www.newageislam.com/radical-islamism-and-jihad/rahmah-ghazali/malaysia--wahhabi-radical-muslim-group-jati-declares-war-on-liberal-muslim-ngos/d/34454

 

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Malaysia: Muslim group Jati has declared war against NGos for its alleged attempts to turn Malaysia into a liberal country in the name of human rights. “And their most rude demand is to call for the repeal of the Syariah law" (thestar.com.my)

submitted 2 days ago by gulletsnowbird

[–]playingwithknives 12 points 2 days ago

Saudi money basically, Islam in Malaysia was benign and friendly in the 80s when I lived there.

 [–]TheGravemind_ 9 points 2 days ago

Islam in places like Pakistan was fine until Saudi money in the late 70s, too.

"Radical Islam" didn't really exist until ~40 years ago.

[–]yukfu 2 points 1 day ago

Wahhabism is a scourge. But hey they got oil so who cares.

[–]aymanzone 18 points 2 days ago

[–]Znarl 12 points 2 days ago

Malaysia does have a fast growing middle class. That may be the cause for concern to older generations, younger generation spending their Friday night watching American movies or traveling outside Malaysia to learn how different the world is.

 [–]snirp 5 points 2 days ago

Small chance. More radical interpretations of Islam seem to be on the rise. The UN interpretation of human rights is at odds with Sharia. A more compatible version of human rights was drawn up, but I guess that is not the Human Rights you are referring to.

In line with Sharia and Islamic tradition, it discrimates between man and woman, Muslim and non-Muslim, family and individual. It has no provisions for sexual freedom, etc.

[–]deepaktiwarii 11 points 2 days ago

Please cite some liberal Islamic countries, I am curious.

[–]GetKenny 58 points 2 days ago

They have also been accused of calling for the freedom of religion, including renouncing Islam; the protection of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transsexual (LGBT) rights; the removal of Malay privileges, the freedom to embrace Syiah teachings; and the right for non-Muslims to use ‘Allah’ to refer to God.

How dare they.

[–]captainisplanet 9 points 2 days ago

How dare they embrace others!

Those two countries didn't place their foundation on Islam and you'll be surprised on how tolerant the majority of muslim from Indonesia and Turkey are. (I know about all of those stupid news/terrorist/policy from Indonesia, but the concept of Islam teaching there is totally different and it is almost like a mix bag of Sufism, Hinduism and Spiritualism)        

[–]snirp 9 points 2 days ago

The general movement in Turkey is definitely away from civil liberties. A lot of that is a rebound from the Kemalists trying to enforce their convictions, but my guess it is not stopping any time soon.

 [–]atomic_rabbit 2 points 1 day ago

The situation in Turkey is a mixed bag. Kurds, for example, have seen a dramatic expansion in their civil liberties under the current government, whereas press freedoms have been curtailed.

[–]jmite 5 points 2 days ago

Four years ago I would have said Turkey

 [–]yukfu 0 points 1 day ago

Lebanon, Tunisia

[–]alexander1701 0 points 1 day ago

It does, it's the Russians.

The middle class just tends to accuse the rich of having it too easy and the poor of not being industrious enough to get by with less, rather than actually helping. They do occasionally give America pause, though.

 [–]boofadoof 5 points 2 days ago

yeah those stupid malaysian officials! letting petty human rights and fairness get in the way of my islam!

           

[–]Lord_NiteShade 57 points 2 days ago

Its OK guys, all Muslims are peaceful moderates. All the ones we hear about are just radical.

         

[–]SAGANator_420 21 points 2 days ago

Islamaphobe! Someone call the mods to protect us from such a rational ideas.

 [–]deepaktiwarii 5 points 2 days ago

Sarcastic reality or realistic sarcasm.

 [–]SkunkMonkey 1 point 1 day ago

Sarcality? Realarcasm?

 [–]memetherapy 2 points 1 day ago

stupidiot

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[–]Schatz12 2 points 1 day ago

It's sad that human beings who can not change their views based on reason and evidence can not be dealt with through reason and evidence, which only leaves a few limited options on how to deal with those people.

 [–]ChimRichles 3 points 2 days ago

This is very dissapointing. I was in Malaysia in September and was only impressed with the country and people. Very warm, friendly, beautiful people.

[–]Natural_One 2 points 1 day ago

If people cant use their religion responsibly, we should take it away.

[–]clearlynotabot 2 points 1 day ago

The leader of Jati, Hasan Ali, left Malaysia's most prominent Muslim political party because he's that right wing. He's a subset of a subset. I barely hear anything from Jati and I lived in Malaysia the past few years.

 [–]HappinessHunter 3 points 2 days ago

Sooo

Stoning rape victims is NOT "rude"?

 [–]najcarnage 1 point 2 days ago

name one time malaysia stoned a rape victim

 [–]HappinessHunter 1 point 1 day ago

Name one article that's discussing the outrage of Malaysia as opposed to an Islamic extremist group.

Hint: it ain't this one.

 [–]teiman 3 points 2 days ago

One thing is true. You cant help humanity without removing religion. Religion is one of the forces that make a lot of countries exist on the dark.

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[–]juloxx 0 points 2 days ago

its funny how non-muslims are literally the only ones i hear call it that

 [–]RMaximus 2 points 2 days ago

Are you saying islam is not the religion of peace?

 [–]juloxx 8 points 2 days ago

No more than America is the Land of the Free

[–]Freeiheit 1 point 2 days ago

Dirka dirka kill the clean people. Hope they fight the barbarians tooth and nail

[–]more_pron 2 points 2 days ago

To borrow France's byline "If they want to live in a country without Shariah law, they should move to one that doesn't have it."

[–]FreeTheTitties 2 points 1 day ago

If a majority of people there agree to live like that, so be it. If we don't agree with it, we can cut diplomatic ties and put economic sanctions in place. I doubt it would help much, but that's how it works.

[–]GetKenny 2 points 2 days ago

There's nothing wrong with trying to improve the place where you live.

[–]more_pron 3 points 1 day ago

I'm sure that's how they see themselves.

 [–]enry_straker 0 points 1 day ago

I'm pretty sure that it's not that easy to move into a country that doesn't have it.

IMMIGRATION OFFICER: Why do you want to move to our country.

IMMIGRANT: You no have shariah

IMMIGRATION OFFICER: No can do. You need to have lots of money, invest in our country or have relatives living in our country, have lots of points in our system or some such shit.

Plus if you are mexican, you just have to wait for no more than 30-40 years.

[–]ortucis 1 point 1 day ago

"Radical Islam" didn't really exist until ~40 years ago.

That's one of the most retarded things I've read on Reddit.. in last few mins.

Aply, all the mughal invasions and millions of Hindus killed and converted in "India", never happened. That wasn't radical enough to be labeled 'RADICAL'.

Fun fact, a Muslim ruler gave his soldiers 3 bucks for a head of a Hindu who won't convert. 2 bucks for Hindu woman to be used as whore.

That aply isn't radical. This piece of shit religion has always been like this. Always will be.

[–]TheGravemind_ 1 point 1 day ago

If Hindus were forced to convert during the Muslim Mughal empire, then why isn't most of India Hindu today? you're full of shit

Oh dear, let's hope Human Rights win in Malaysia. It is difficult to introduce rights in poorer countries. This world needs a middle class. :(

 [–]SRSalerter 15 points 2 days ago

Select * from COUNTRIES_TBL where STATE_RELIGION = 'ISLAM' and LIBERAL is not null;

[–]gudeg 1 point 2 days ago*

if you change the query into:

select country_nm from countries_tbl where upper(majority)='MUSLIM' and LIBERAL is not null

| Indonesia  

| Turkey      

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