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Pakistani Jihadis' War Cry of Ghazwa-e-Hind Is Entirely Based On Concocted Ahadith: No Religious Sanctity attached to Terrorist Designs on India

 

 

By Ghulam Rasool Dehlvi, New Age Islam

October 20, 2013

“See! Here the word “Ghazwa” has been used. Ghazwa means an Islamic battle in which the prophet himself participated, be it a big military expedition or a small-scale battle. So, when the Prophet is no more now to participate in this battle physically, why has it been called “Ghazwa”?  Have you really thought about it? Simply, because it is none other than Prophet’s own mission.  So, you have to carry on this Prophetic mission. This is an honour that Allah has bestowed on Pakistanis. And this is the cause that led to the creation of Pakistan. Pakistanis should now get ready to fight Ghazwa-e-Hind.”

Does the above quotation of a top Pakistani cleric Maulana Irfan ul Haq remind you of something? Yes, an obviously concocted or misinterpreted Hadees against idol-worshippers of India that many extremist Islamists of Pakistan like the Maulana openly quote in their crazy bid to incite all Pakistanis to take arms against India and wipe out all idol-worshippers from the region. Needless to say that the word “idol-worshipper” includes in their exclusivist dictionary the overwhelming majority of Muslims who love and venerate the holy Sufi saints who brought Islam to South Asia. Like Maulana Irfan ul Haq, there are some more fanatic Maulvis and extremist political and religious ideologues in different parts of Pakistan who provide religious stimulus to breed terrorism and mindless violence against Indian citizens in general and our non-Muslim brethren in particular.    

However, many of us Indians might still not know what Ghazwa-e-Hind is and for what purpose it is being propagated. For such naive and gullible Indian citizens, both Muslims and non-Muslims, who are still unaware of, or oblivious to this pernicious plan to launch a dastardly attack on our soil, India, in the name of Ghazwa-e-Hind, I would first unravel this mischievous conspiracy of self-styled Jihadists, then turn to refute it on the firm and well-founded Islamic theological grounds. 

What is the doctrine of Ghazwa-e-Hind?

The Pakistani proponents of Ghazwa-e-Hind claim that the holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) had predicted that one day India will be conquered by their (so-called) Mujahideen and all idol-worshippers will be wiped out for ever. And those who will participate in this bloody war against infidels will be granted free and faster entry to paradise as compared to ordinary Muslims. This is precisely the core idea behind the creation of the nefarious myth: Ghazwa-e-Hind. In a nutshell, Ghazwa-e-Hind, also known as Ghazwa-tul-Hind, is a dangerous doctrine (based upon concocted Hadith) used by self-styled jihadists, extremists and terrorists who cultivate hatred against India in the hearts of  the common Pakistani people by  giving it a religious justification.

Concocted Hadith of Ghazwa-e-Hind

Extremists have concocted four Ahadith to propagate the virulent and brazenly un-Islamic notion of Ghazwa-e-Hind, but, ironically, they go unchallenged among the silent Muslim majority of Ulema in Pakistan. The most popular among those Hadith is the one that they believe has been narrated by the Prophet’s companion Hazrat Abu Huraira (r.a). This is the Hadith that Maulana Irfan ul Haq also quoted in his speech in Pakistan in which he recklessly tried to brainwash common Pakistanis into engaging in a bloody war against India in the name of Ghazwa-e-Hind. See how this fanatic Maulvi uses this Hadith to brainwash Pakistani people and promote terrorism against India:

“You see, God eliminated idolatry and polytheism from the entire Arab peninsula, but He had set some period of time for His prophet to accomplish this work which was still incomplete even at the time of his demise. Polytheism and idolatry were yet to be uprooted from the rest of the world.  Therefore, in his final days, the Prophet issued an order. He said, “There will be a Ghazwa (Islamic battle) in India, in which a group of my Ummah would participate and they will be granted a position equal to that of my foremost followers. In this jihad, some people will be killed and some others will be arrested. After achieving the conquest, the group will join the army of Isa Ibn-e-Maryam (Jesus) in Syria.”

Source: http://www.newageislam.com/multimedia/how-pakistanis-are-being-brainwashed-into-engaging-in-war-against-india--virulent-anti-islam-propaganda-in-pakistan-in-the-name-of-so-called-ghazwa-e-hind/d/13576

The chairman of the Pakistani Islamist organisation “Islam Ke Sipahi” (the soldiers of Islam) mentions three more such grossly concocted  Hadith in an article titled “Ghazwa-e-Hind: Mujahideen will conquer India”:

 (1) Thawban (R.A) narrated that the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said, “Allah has protected two groups of my Ummah from the Hellfire – one that will conquer India and the other that will be with ‘Esa son of Maryam (AS)”

(2) “Abu Huraira (R.A) said, “The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) promised us the conquest of India. If I was to come across that event, I will spend my soul and wealth. If I am killed then I am among the best of martyrs. And if I return then I am Abu Huraira (RA) who has been freed from the fire of hell.” (Sunan Nasai)

(3) Na’im, son of Hammad in al-Fitan reports that, Abu Huraira said that the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) mentioned India and said, “A group of you will conquer India, Allah will open for them (India) until they come with its kings chained – Allah having forgiven their sins – when they return back (from India), they will find Esa son of Maryam in Syria.”

Source: http://islamkesipahi.wordpress.com/ghazwa-e-hind/

Very shockingly, after mentioning these Hadith, the writer of the above article concludes:

“India is a Fitna, which is being supported by the Zionists to destroy Muslims. This has turned into a proxy war where the Zionists fund and support India to destroy the Muslims. India itself was a Muslim country until the British invaded it and before they left they gave all the power to the Hindus and tried their best to bring the Muslims down, thanks to Allama Iqbal, Muhammad Ali Jinnah and the Pakistan Movements’ efforts that Muslims got Pakistan.”

Source: http://islamkesipahi.wordpress.com/ghazwa-e-hind/

This is one of the many instances of how extremist Islamist zealots use these fabricated Hadith and brainwash common Pakistanis to engage in an intellectual war and terrorism against India.

Refutation

From a theological perspective, if we want to offer a credible retort to the extremists’ interpretation or concoction of a Hadith, we must engage with its standpoints using the approaches of classical Islamic scholars. Therefore, I would like to base my refutation on both the classical and modern methodology of Islamic theology:

1. According to the classical Islamic science of Hadith, any report or narration cannot be termed as “Hadith Sahih” (authentic saying of the Prophet) until it is scrutinised and validated by applying the certain criteria for checking the Hadith texts. One of those criteria is being mentioned in any of the books of Sihah-e-Sittah (six canonical Hadith collections that have been meticulously scrutinised by the experts of Hadith and are considered the most reliable by mainstream Muslims). None of the Hadith concocted for the “Ghazwa-e-Hind movement” find any place in any of the six authenticated books of Hadith. Although two such Hadith appear in an unauthenticated Hadith collection of Imam Nasai, but not in Sunan an-Nasai al Sughra, the book counted among the Sihah-e-Sittah. The other two reports do not even exist in any collection of the Hadith compilers.

As for the two reports mentioned in Hadith collection of Imam Nasai, it should be noted that Imam Nasai died in 915 AD, many years after the compilers of Sihah-e-Sittah died. The question arises how come Imam Nasai mentioned a Hadith that his predecessors and seniors in the technical field of Hadith did not even hint at. It is really awkward that some people could claim to believe in a Hadith that was reported by Imam Nasai only, and not by any other compiler of Hadith, let alone the other compilers of Sihah-e-Sittah. How could it happen that all the Muhaddeseen (collectors of Hadith reports) gave pass to a Hadith speaking of a “Prophetic Battle for India” (Ghazwa-e-Hind) that will help its participants go straight to heaven and attain the position of the foremost followers of Islam whose virtues have been mentioned even in the Holy Quran? Yes, this is what the Jihadist goons of Pakistan believe. Given such an abundant reward for participating in this war, as the Ghazwa-e-Hind Hadith tell, they should have been narrated by many more companions of the Prophet and should have been recorded in more books of Hadith, not only in a collection of Imam Nasai. Interestingly, all these Hadith are narrated through a single chain, i.e. through only one companion of the Prophet (peace be upon him). This defect alone can reject the Hadith outright.

2. We have found no report in Islamic history telling us about the use of the term “Ghazwa-e-Hind” in the past, not even by the so-called Muslim rulers or conquerors who waged a war on India and invaded it. If the Hadith related to “Ghazwa-e-Hind” were really authentic or at least popular among them, they must have resorted to them and we should have such reports in history of Islam or Muslims.

3. Since these Hadith are not found at all in any of the Hadith collections that the Muslims of Shiite school of thought consider authentic, there are chances that they may have been invented by the Ummayads according to their expansionist designs. This is noteworthy that Umayyads did reach Sindh, a part of Hind (India) back then.

4. The Hadith literature serves as a secondary source of Islamic theology. Therefore, all its collections and compilations have been reviewed meticulously to ensure the authenticity of their contents. But this authentication process is ongoing. According to the progressive Islamic scholars, only Isnad (one component of Hadith i.e. its chain of narrators) is not sufficient to check the authenticity of a Hadith. Matn (the other component, i.e. the text of the Hadith) also should be given equal attention. Now when there are more chances for Hadith reports to be misinterpreted or concocted, we should consider the universally acceptable Islamic criteria to verify the Hadith text’s validity. It implies that while verifying the Hadith narrations, we should employ five most important criteria: (1) the holy Qur’an (2) rationally authentic traditions (3) sound reason (4) established history and (5) moderation of the ideas. Going by any of the five basic criteria of checking the Hadith texts, there is no room for any obnoxious idea like the Ghazwa-e-Hind in Islamic theology.

A regular contributor for New Age Islam, Ghulam Rasool Dehlvi is an Alim and Fazil (classical Islamic scholar) with a Sufi background. He has graduated from a leading Sufi Islamic seminary of India, Jamia Amjadia Rizvia (Mau, U.P.), acquired Diploma in Qur'anic Arabic from Al-Jamiat ul Islamia, Faizabad, U.P., and Certificate in Uloom ul Hadith from Al-Azhar Institute of Islamic Studies, Badaun, U.P. He has also graduated in Arabic (Hons) and is pursuing his M. A. in Comparative Religion from Jamia Millia Islamia, New Delhi.

URL: http://www.newageislam.com/islam,terrorism-and-jihad/pakistani-jihadis--war-cry-of-ghazwa-e-hind-is-entirely-based-on-ahadith-concocted-by-the-ummayads-to-further-their-expansionist-and-imperialist-designs-on-india/d/14057

 

 




TOTAL COMMENTS:-   27


  • It is deplorable to see that the concoction and fiction of the Ghazwatul Hind is still being flogged in the Urdu press. Recently, I am aghast to seet this: 
    تاجدار دوجہاں، سرور سروراں" رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے مجاہدین ہندکو جنت کی بشارت سے سرفرازفرمایا، جیسا کہ مجاہدین قسطنطنیہ کو آپﷺنے فردوس بریں کی خوشخبری عطافرمائی۔
    (۱) (عَنْ اَبِیْ ھُرَیْرَۃَ قَالَ وَعَدَنَا رَسُوْلُ اللّٰہِﷺغَزْوَۃَ الْھِنْدِ فَاِنْ اَدْرَکْتُھَا،اُنْفِقْ فِیْھَا نَفْسِیْ وَ مَالِیْ۔فَاِنْ اُقْتَلْ،کُنْتُ مِنْ اَفْضَلِ الشُّھَدَاءِ وَ اِنْ اَرْجِعْ فَاَنَا اَبُوْھُرَیْرَۃَ الْمُحَرَّرُ) (سنن نسائی ص ۵۲ ج ۲) 
    (۲)( عَنْ اَبِیْ ھُرَیْرَۃَ وَعَدَنَا رَسُوْلُ اللّٰہِﷺغَزْوَۃَ الْھِنْدِ فَاِنْ اَدْرَکْتُھَا،اُنْفِقْ فِیْھَا نَفْسِیْ وَمَالِیْ۔وَاِنْ قُتِلْتُ،کُنْتُ اَفَضَلَ الشُّھَدَاءِ وَاِنْ رَجَعْتُ فَاَنَا اَبُوْھُرَیْرَۃَ الْمُحَرَّرُ) (سنن نسائی ج ۲ ص ۵۲)
    ترجمہ: حضرت ابوہریرہ رضی اللہ عنہ نے کہا کہ حضرت سلطان دوجہاں ﷺ نے ہم لوگوں سے جنگ ہند کا وعدہ فرمایا،پس اگر میں اسے پاؤں تو اس میں اپنی جان و مال خرچ کروں،پھر اگر میں قتل ہو جاؤں تو میں افضل شہداء میں سے ہوجاؤں اوراگر میں لوٹ کر آؤں تو میں (جہنم سے ) آزاد ابو ہریرہ ہوجاؤں۔
    (۳)(عَنْ ثَوْبَانَ مَوْلٰی رَسُوْلِ اللّٰہِﷺقَالَ قَالَ رَسُوْلُ اللّٰہِﷺعِصَابَتَانِ مِنْ اُمَّتِیْ حَرَّرَھُمَا اللّٰہُ مِنَ النَّارِ۔عِصَابَۃٌ تَغْزُو الْھِنْدَ وَعِصَابَۃٌ تَکُوْنُ مَعَ عِیْسَی بْنِ مَرْیَمَ عَلَیْھِمَا السَّلَامُ )(سنن نسائی ج ۲ ص ۵۲)
    ترجمہ: حضرت سرکار کائنات ﷺ نے ارشاد فرمایاکہ رب تعالیٰ نے ہماری امت کی دو جماعت کو جہنم سے آزاد فرمادیا۔ایک وہ جماعت جوہندوستان میں جنگ کرے اورایک وہ جماعت جو حضرت عیسیٰ علیہ السلام کے ساتھ رہے۔
    توضیح:ان احادیث مصطفویہ سے صاف ظاہر ہوگیاکہ ہندوستان کو فتح کرنے والے مجاہدین جہنم "سے آزاد ہیں۔
    ,تاریخ کیرلا۔قسط دوم )
    ریاست کیرلاکی جغرافیائی تصویر
    (طارق انور, کیرلا)

    By GRD - 4/15/2017 12:37:40 AM



  • What greater proof can there be that the so called Hadith is pure fabrication than the fact that this never came about either in the Prophet's time or during the time of the Khalifa -e -Rashidin or during the 1000 years of the existence of the Islamic Khilafat that shared a border with us?
    By Observer - 8/18/2014 5:37:48 AM



  • FIRST HADEES OF HAZRAT ABU HURAIRAH (R.A.)
    The very first Hadees is related to Hazrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.). He says that my intimate friend Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) told me that:
    “ In this Ummah, the troops would be headed towards Sindh & Hind”
    Hazrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.) says that if I could find a chance to participate in any of such movement & (while participating in it) I be got martyred, then well & good; if came back as a survived warrior, then I would be a free Abu Hurairah, to whom Allah Almighty would have given freedom from the Hell.”
    References:
    With these words, only Imam bin Hambal (R) narrated this Hadees in ‘Masnad’.
    And Ibn-e-Kaseer copied with his reference in ‘Al-Badaya Wa Nahaya’
    Qazi Ahmad Shakir gave this Hadees the beautiful stability in the explanation & search of ‘Masnad Ahmad’.
    Imam Nisai did narrate this Hadees in both his books: ‘As Sunan Al Mujtaba’ & ‘As Sunan Al Kubra’ with the following wordings, that Hazrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.) says, Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) did promise us of Ghazwa-e-Hind. If I got chance to participate in it, then I would spend all my energy & wealth in it. If I got slained, then I would be considered among the most great martyrs. And if came back, then would be a freed Abu-Hurairah.
    Imam Behqi (R) has also copied the same wordings in ‘As Sunan Al Kubra’. In his another narration, there is one addition. With the reference of Ibn-e-Daood, Masdad told about Abu-Ishaq Fazari that he used to say: ‘I wish that I could participate in the Ghazwat of Marbad(some place in East towards India from Arab), instead of all those Ghazwaat which I did in city Rome’.
    Imam Behqi (R) has talked about the same narration in ‘Dalail un Nubuwwah’. And with his reference,  this narration has been copied by Imam Syuti (R) in ‘Al Khasaais Al Kubra’.
    Furthermore, the following Hadees quoters have narrated the same Hadees with a few word difference.
    Sheikh Ahmad Shakir (R) approved the very Hadees.
    Ibn e Kaseer copied in ‘Al Badaya Wa Nahaya’ from the testimonial of Imam Ahmad.
    Abu Naeem (R) narrated it in ‘Huliyaat ul Auliya’.
    Imam Hakim (R) remained silent after narrating this Hadees in ‘Al Mustadrak Al Saheeheen’. While, Imam Zahbi (R) omitted it from his Mustadrak.
    Saeed bin Mansoor narrated it in his book ‘As Sunan’.
    Khateeb Baghdadi wrote in the history of Baghdad that ‘I would make myself restless in it’.
    Naeem bin Hammad; the teacher of Imam Bukhari (R) wrote in ‘Al Fitan’.
    Ibn e Abi Asim (R) did in his book ‘Al-Jihad’.
    Ibn e Abi Hatim (R) narrated in his book ‘Al Laal’ that ‘if I would be murdered, then would be alive by getting food (as shaheed) & if returned, then would be freed’.
    Imam Bukhari (R) did narrate in ‘Al Tareekh Al Kabeer’
    Imam Mazi did in ‘Tehzeeb ul Kamal’.
    Ibn e Hajar Askalani did relate this Hadees in ‘Tehzeeb Al Tehzeeb


    By zubair Ali - 8/18/2014 3:17:20 AM



  • The writer is talking Rubbish.... Ghazwatulhind is available in Sunan Nasai, Volume No. 2, Chapter: Kitab-al-JJihad
    FIRST HADEES OF HAZRAT ABU HURAIRAH (R.A.)
    The very first Hadees is related to Hazrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.). He says that my intimate friend Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) told me that:
    “ In this Ummah, the troops would be headed towards Sindh & Hind”
    Hazrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.) says that if I could find a chance to participate in any of such movement & (while participating in it) I be got martyred, then well & good; if came back as a survived warrior, then I would be a free Abu Hurairah, to whom Allah Almighty would have given freedom from the Hell.”
    References:
    With these words, only Imam bin Hambal (R) narrated this Hadees in ‘Masnad’.
    And Ibn-e-Kaseer copied with his reference in ‘Al-Badaya Wa Nahaya’
    Qazi Ahmad Shakir gave this Hadees the beautiful stability in the explanation & search of ‘Masnad Ahmad’.
    Imam Nisai did narrate this Hadees in both his books: ‘As Sunan Al Mujtaba’ & ‘As Sunan Al Kubra’ with the following wordings, that Hazrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.) says, Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) did promise us of Ghazwa-e-Hind. If I got chance to participate in it, then I would spend all my energy & wealth in it. If I got slained, then I would be considered among the most great martyrs. And if came back, then would be a freed Abu-Hurairah.
    Imam Behqi (R) has also copied the same wordings in ‘As Sunan Al Kubra’. In his another narration, there is one addition. With the reference of Ibn-e-Daood, Masdad told about Abu-Ishaq Fazari that he used to say: ‘I wish that I could participate in the Ghazwat of Marbad(some place in East towards India from Arab), instead of all those Ghazwaat which I did in city Rome’.
    Imam Behqi (R) has talked about the same narration in ‘Dalail un Nubuwwah’. And with his reference,  this narration has been copied by Imam Syuti (R) in ‘Al Khasaais Al Kubra’.
    Furthermore, the following Hadees quoters have narrated the same Hadees with a few word difference.
    Sheikh Ahmad Shakir (R) approved the very Hadees.
    Ibn e Kaseer copied in ‘Al Badaya Wa Nahaya’ from the testimonial of Imam Ahmad.
    Abu Naeem (R) narrated it in ‘Huliyaat ul Auliya’.
    Imam Hakim (R) remained silent after narrating this Hadees in ‘Al Mustadrak Al Saheeheen’. While, Imam Zahbi (R) omitted it from his Mustadrak.
    Saeed bin Mansoor narrated it in his book ‘As Sunan’.
    Khateeb Baghdadi wrote in the history of Baghdad that ‘I would make myself restless in it’.
    Naeem bin Hammad; the teacher of Imam Bukhari (R) wrote in ‘Al Fitan’.
    Ibn e Abi Asim (R) did in his book ‘Al-Jihad’.
    Ibn e Abi Hatim (R) narrated in his book ‘Al Laal’ that ‘if I would be murdered, then would be alive by getting food (as shaheed) & if returned, then would be freed’.
    Imam Bukhari (R) did narrate in ‘Al Tareekh Al Kabeer’
    Imam Mazi did in ‘Tehzeeb ul Kamal’.
    Ibn e Hajar Askalani did relate this Hadees in ‘Tehzeeb Al 


    By zubair Ali - 8/18/2014 3:13:44 AM



  • ْI congratulate the learned author on writing this excellent article. It is an eye-opener for both  Muslims and non-Muslims living in India. It is time we keep ourselves abreast of such grave conspiracies against national harmony and religious peace and securtiy of our beautiful country, India.

    By Varsha Sharma - 10/23/2013 1:49:41 AM



  • Dear Syed Amjad,
    The problem with us Indian Muslims is that we don't find fault within us. When someone from among us tries to destroy the  basement of national harmony and brotherhood, none of us ever dares and comes forward to condemn such acts. Instead, we try to maintain our diplomacy by making ambiguous comments on them . Such a kinda nature definitely develops a wrong impression in the minds of our counterparts. We always forget about the pleasure we are enjoying in this country and complain immediately when something unacceptable happens.  I don't say it is applicable to all of us, there are many who want to raise their voice, but fail to do it due to some fatal reasons.
    We should stop assailing others and instead find out an effective way to respect all peoples irrespective of religion, caste and creed.

    By Ghulam Rasool Dehlvi - 10/23/2013 12:39:09 AM



  • @Syed Amjad

     “Alhamdulillah, we are happy staying in India”.

     

    Indeed, we must thank God for having bestowed upon us blissful birth, decent upbringing and peaceful stay in an ideal democratic country, India. I strongly believe every Indian Muslim is fortunate enough to have been born and brought up in this land of peace, security and spirituality. Hence, living in India is a “nemat” (great bounty of God) that we must proudly proclaim and thus thank God for bestowing that on us. The holy Quran clearly says in this regard:

    “Mention and proclaim every bounty that Allah has favored you with.” (93:11)

    In the above Quranic verse, the word nemat (bounty) is general, which implies all bounties that God bestowed on Muslims. And what could be more blissful nemat than being born and brought up in a land of peace, security and human dignity. Now, obviously, there can be different forms and ways of mentioning and proclaiming this bounty. But the best way of doing that is thanking Allah with the tongue. Thus, your saying “Alhamdulillah, we are  happy staying in India” stands firm and sound on the theological Islamic grounds.


    By Ghulam Rasool Dehlvi - 10/22/2013 11:53:51 PM



  • If a Pakistani says that  Ghazwa-e-Hind is according to hadees, Suppose if  this hadees fits for India according to Pakistanis.
    Then my opinion  differs : this Hadees will also fit for Ghazwa-e-Pakistan. because
    1. India is secular  Pakistan  is also secular.
    2. India have movies and vulgarity same Pakistan also have  movies and vulgarity
    3. Indian Muslim women 50%  not covering face same Pakistan 100% Muslim women not covering face.
    4. India 50% Muslim are doing shirk, Pakistan 80% Muslim are doing shirk
    5. India have many dargah, same in Pakistan also have many Dargah.
    6. Indian muslim are Baralvi, Deobandi, naqshbandi, mahdavi, qadri, Ghosi, etc, pakistan also have Bralvi, Deobandi, naqshbandi, mahdavi, qadri, Ghosi, etc
    7. India Have Temples same Pakistan also have temples.
    8. Indian celebrating : birthday, urus, barsi, meelad, 11th fatiha, 12th fatiha, 3din ke fatiha, 40din ke fatiha etc, same thing in pakistan   birthday, urus, barsi, meelad, 11th fatiha, 12th fatiha, 3din ke fatiha, 40din ke fatiha etc
    9. Etc (I have many examples)
    Tell me for what they are doing Jehad against India or (Ghazwa-e-Hind)
    Pakistan is not Islamic country,
    let them solve their own problem.
    Alhamdulillah we are happy staying in India.


    By Syed Amjad - 10/22/2013 9:34:34 PM



  • @ghulam m
    what i wanted to say i have said. you can keep beating this bush if it helps you psychologicaly.


    By rational mohammed yunus - 10/21/2013 6:47:41 PM



  • Rational says, "Was not Mohammed bin Qasim from Ummayad the expansionist and Imperialists".
    That does not mean this article is a condemnation of all Ghazis. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/21/2013 1:43:33 PM



  • hats off! yaar chhoti cheez hai. forgiven and forgotten, if you insist! 
    By Ji - 10/21/2013 7:49:19 AM



  • yes mr ji, i agree. i myself have said similar. but i made a stupid mistake. and there it is. i merely admit my mistake. i cannot make you forgive me. regards.

    By hats off! - 10/21/2013 4:41:23 AM



  • knowledge should be freely shared, so there's really no harm if someone took info or insights from some other person's writings...in fact, much of everyone's 'knowledge' is second hand....hai na? as some wise person has said, all that needs to be said has already been said....and there's really nothing new under the sun....
    By Ji - 10/21/2013 4:35:52 AM



  • dear mr dehlvi, sorry again! my apologies.

    ps. fishing in the waters of the hadith can occassionally bring up sharks.

    By hats off! - 10/21/2013 2:39:04 AM



  • Dear hats off, one can ignore it for once, but, after all, it is not fair to try to devalue any well-researched and hard-earned work. To be very honest, I took pains to work on the subject of Ghazwa-e-Hind that has long been going unchallenged by the silent majority of Ulema from both Pakistan and India. It requires great deal of effort, time and energy to delve deeply into the original sources of classical Islamic science, i.e. books of  hadith. So, please do not reject any such work outright by finding any apparent similarity. Thanks for your honest sorry!

    By Ghulam Rasool Dehlvi - 10/21/2013 2:05:05 AM



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