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Islam, Women and Feminism (24 May 2019 NewAgeIslam.Com)




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  • Muslims are not permitted to commit illegal sex with slaves: The extract from Sunan Ibn Majah, The chapters on legal punishment, hadith: حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ نُمَيْرٍ، حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ إِسْحَاقَ، عَنْ يَعْقُوبَ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ الأَشَجِّ، عَنْ أَبِي أُمَامَةَ بْنِ سَهْلِ بْنِ حُنَيْفٍ، عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ سَعْدِ بْنِ عُبَادَةَ، قَالَ كَانَ بَيْنَ أَبْيَاتِنَا رَجُلٌ مُخْدَجٌ ضَعِيفٌ فَلَمْ يُرَعْ إِلاَّ وَهُوَ عَلَى أَمَةٍ مِنْ إِمَاءِ الدَّارِ يَخْبُثُ بِهَا فَرَفَعَ شَأْنَهُ سَعْدُ بْنُ عُبَادَةَ إِلَى رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ ‏"‏ اجْلِدُوهُ ضَرْبَ مِائَةِ سَوْطٍ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالُوا يَا نَبِيَّ اللَّهِ هُوَ أَضْعَفُ مِنْ ذَلِكَ لَوْ ضَرَبْنَاهُ مِائَةَ سَوْطٍ مَاتَ ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ فَخُذُوا لَهُ عِثْكَالاً فِيهِ مِائَةُ شِمْرَاخٍ فَاضْرِبُوهُ ضَرْبَةً وَاحِدَةً ‏"‏ ‏. It was narrated that Sa'eed bin Sa'd bin `Ubadah said: “There was a man living among our dwellings who had a physical defect, and to our astonishment he was seen with one of the slave women of the dwellings, committing illegal sex with her. Sa'd bin 'Ubadah referred his case to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), who said: 'Give him one hundred lashes.' They said: 'O Prophet (ﷺ) of Allah (ﷺ), he is too weak to bear that. If we give him one hundred lashes he will die.' He said: “Then take a branch with a hundred twigs and hit him once.” Sahih (Darussalam), book 20, hadith 2671 The phrase, a man..was seen with one of the slave women..commiting illegal sex with her..Give him one hundred lashes, as mentioned above implies hadith discourages men to have sex with slave women
    By zuma - 7/15/2019 6:59:54 PM



  • The following is the extract from Sahih Muslim, the book of marriage:
    وَحَدَّثَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، وَمُحَمَّدُ بْنُ رَافِعٍ، - وَاللَّفْظُ لاِبْنِ رَافِعٍ - قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ، أَخْبَرَنَا ابْنُ جُرَيْجٍ، أَخْبَرَنَا ابْنُ أَبِي مُلَيْكَةَ، أَنَّ الْقَاسِمَ بْنَ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ أَبِي بَكْرٍ، أَخْبَرَهُ أَنَّ عَائِشَةَ أَخْبَرَتْهُ أَنَّ سَهْلَةَ بِنْتَ سُهَيْلِ بْنِ عَمْرٍو جَاءَتِ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَتْ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ إِنَّ سَالِمًا - لِسَالِمٍ مَوْلَى أَبِي حُذَيْفَةَ - مَعَنَا فِي بَيْتِنَا وَقَدْ بَلَغَ مَا يَبْلُغُ الرِّجَالُ وَعَلِمَ مَا يَعْلَمُ الرِّجَالُ ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏ "‏ أَرْضِعِيهِ تَحْرُمِي عَلَيْهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ فَمَكَثْتُ سَنَةً أَوْ قَرِيبًا مِنْهَا لاَ أُحَدِّثُ بِهِ وَهِبْتُهُ ثُمَّ لَقِيتُ الْقَاسِمَ فَقُلْتُ لَهُ لَقَدْ حَدَّثْتَنِي حَدِيثًا مَا حَدَّثْتُهُ بَعْدُ ‏.‏ قَالَ فَمَا هُوَ فَأَخْبَرْتُهُ ‏.‏ قَالَ فَحَدِّثْهُ عَنِّي أَنَّ عَائِشَةَ أَخْبَرَتْنِيهِ ‏.

    Ibn Abu Mulaika reported that al-Qasim b. Muhammad b. Abu Bakr had narrated to him that 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail b. 'Amr came to Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) and said:

    Messenger of Allah, Salim (the freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa) is living with us in our house, and he has attained (puberty) as men attain it and has acquired knowledge (of the sex problems) as men acquire, whereupon he said: Suckle him so that he may become unlawful (in regard to marriage) for you He (Ibn Abu Mulaika) said: I refrained from (narrating this hadith) for a year or so on account of fear. I then met al-Qasim and said to him: You narrated to me a hadith which I did not narrate (to anyone) afterwards. He said: What is that? I informed him, whereupon he said: Narrate it on my authority that 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) had narrated that to me.
    The phrase, Salim..he said: Suckle him so that he may become unlawful (in regard to marriage) for you He (ibn Abua Mulaika), as mentioned above implies this message was between two men, Salim and He, ibn Abua Mulaika.  Salim called ibn Abua Mulaika to suckle him.  If Hadith supports IBGT, why was it that Salim's reply to ibn Abua Mulaika was, Suckle him so that he may become unlawful (in regard of to marriage)?  This phrase implies sex between the same sex is to be considered as unlawful.  As the word, unlawful, as mentioned above refers undoubtedly as sin, it implies hadith discourage IBGT.  As it is unlawful from Hadith point of view, it is irrational to promote IBGT among Muslims.

    By zuma - 7/15/2019 6:49:05 PM



  • Pelvo White Jr,
    In order to prove LBGT is acceptable from Quranic point of view, you have to explain why Quran 24:31 does not mention women are allowed to show their beauty and adornments to other women. 
    This is a critical part.  Why? Quran 20:74 mentions those who sin against them will be thrown into hell.  The following is the extract:
    Quran 20:74, "Verily he who comes to his Lord as a sinner (at Judgment), - for him is Hell: therein shall he neither die nor live."
    Even if, how smart you are, you can argue until you are not sinner, if you are from LBGT, Allah does not accept you since he treats it as sin, ultimately you have to be thrown into hell.  That is the reason why Muslims should forbid to involve in LBGT.

    By zuma - 7/15/2019 5:26:28 PM



  • Pelvo white Jr, again you never quote Quranic and Hadith verses to support your points and just quote history to support your view.  Maybe you are one of LGBT.  However, practice is practice.  Quran is Quran.  What is not from Quran, your explanation is not valid.
    By zuma - 7/15/2019 2:14:26 PM



  • Muhammad: His name meaning “ Merchant “;
    Muhammad was an Arab merchant and the founder of Islam. According to Islamic doctrine, he was a prophet, sent to present and confirm the monotheistic teachings preached previously by Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and other prophets. He is viewed as the final prophet of God in all the main branches of Islam, though some modern denominations diverge from this belief. Muhammad united Arabia into a single Muslim polity, with the Quran as well as his teachings and practices forming the basis of Islamic religious belief. He is referred to by many appellations, including Messenger of Allah, The Prophet Muhammad, Allah's Apostle, Last Prophet of Islam and others; there are also many variant spellings of Muhammad, such as Mohamet, Mahamad, Muhamad and many others. Allah is the unique, omnipotent and only deity and creator of the universe and is equivalent to God. There isn’t any contradictions of principle tenants between the Quran and the King James Version of the Holy Bible (i.e. Christianity) which both recognize monotheism, and the teachings of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and other prophets therefore there isn’t any reason to speak to you solely through the Quran or the holy documents of any other world religion which only serve to encourage transcendent thoughts concerning the divine. There is an oneness of all world religions. The prophet Muhammad recognized this oneness. There is an oneness of all things created by God and this oneness reveals that nothing is a pure anything. All things are mixed to a certain degree with everything else. Hard is mixed with soft, smooth mixed with rough, wet mixed with dry,
    hot mixed with cold, and male mixed with female. How then can we, as God’s creations, recognize as sinful any member of the LGBTQ Community who display the mixtures of male to female beings (i.e. Chinese philosophy defined as Yen and Yang)?Quran is a source of enlightenment and we owe it to ourselves to become enlightened.


    By Pelvo White, Jr. - 7/15/2019 9:05:33 AM



  • Pelvo White Jr, If you insist LGBT people are acceptable from Quranic and hadith point of view, you should quote from Quran and Hadith to support your point instead of mentioning from your view point without any Quranic verse to support them.
    By zuma - 7/11/2019 6:50:55 PM



  • Pelvo White, Jr, none of your sentences are supported by any Quranic verses.  Can you quote any quranic verses to support your view so as to justify your points?
    You have mentioned with this sentence: a woman is a man that has been modified (regaled with divine reproductive capabilities) by God who gives or denies the increase of humanity.  Where do you find the Quranic verse to support this view?  The phrase, a woman is a man that has been modified, in your sentence implies God creates man first and then modifies him as woman.  Does this mean God creates man in woman's womb first and then modifies him into woman later?  No, that is not true since God directly creates woman independently from man.  God needs not to make man first in the womb and then modify him to woman.  If God needs to make man first in the womb and then to modify him into woman, it implies that you mean God is not so powerful to create woman immediately from the womb.
    وَأَنَّهُ خَلَقَ الزَّوْجَيْنِ الذَّكَرَ وَالْأُنْثَىٰ
    That He did create in pairs,- male and female, 
    The phrase, He did create in pairs - male and female, as mentioned above implies He creates woman directly instead of what you say you does not create woman but just modify man here and there and to turn him to woman.


    By zuma - 7/11/2019 6:46:10 PM



  • Concerning Woman: 
    The divine word of God, referred to as woman (i.e. meaning womb man) was created by God from the rib of Adam as a help mate for Adam so that Adam may not live eternally in solitude. Realistically speaking, a woman is a man that has been modified (regaled with divine reproductive capabilities) by God who gives or denies the increase of humanity. Woman was not created for the pleasure of man but as his equal accompaniment ad infinitum. When considering the pleasure of man, we must remember that man can only enjoy that measure of perceived pleasure allowed by God. Man and woman alike only know the pleasures of the world through their five senses with sight being the greatest of all five because with sight we can confirm the suspicions created by the other four senses with claimed knowledge of the world being the sum total of the five senses. With man, and woman, there is nothing in mind (i.e. mind being one’s attention) that was not first in senses. Neither man, nor woman is equipped via their senses to fully appreciate the total of God’s divine pleasure. We only know the collective and singular pleasures of sight, smell, touch, sound and taste. That is our portion of our access to God’s divine reality. Man and woman enjoy only that measure of pleasure apportioned to us by God. Beginning is a point from which, and ending is a point to which. The thoughts of mankind are neither the beginning nor the ending. Men, regardless of personal sexual persuasion, are not equipped to sit in judgement of God’s divine creations. The LGBTQ community are part of God’s divine word as is man and woman and are no more deviated than womb man (i.e. meaning woman). 

    By Pelvo White, Jr. - 7/11/2019 6:44:17 AM



  • Pelvo White,
    If God creates man to be good and perfect, why do some turn away not to believe in Him?  As some turn away not to believe in God, it implies God does not create everything to be good since some have turned their back against God.
    If God does not care about the morality of people, why do Quran 24:3, Quran 19:86 & etc. condemn sinners to hell?
    Chapter 19 Mary سورة مريم - Maryam: Verse 86
    وَنَسُوقُ الْمُجْرِمِينَ إِلَىٰ جَهَنَّمَ وِرْدًا
    And We shall drive the sinners to Hell, like thirsty cattle driven down to water,-
    Chapter 43 Ornaments of Gold سورة الزخرف - Az-Zukhruf: Verse 74
    إِنَّ الْمُجْرِمِينَ فِي عَذَابِ جَهَنَّمَ خَالِدُونَ
    The sinners will be in the Punishment of Hell, to dwell therein (for aye):
    Chapter 20 Taha سورة طه - Taha: Verse 74
    إِنَّهُ مَنْ يَأْتِ رَبَّهُ مُجْرِمًا فَإِنَّ لَهُ جَهَنَّمَ لَا يَمُوتُ فِيهَا وَلَا يَحْيَىٰ
    Verily he who comes to his Lord as a sinner (at Judgment),- for him is Hell: therein shall he neither die nor live.  
    By zuma - 6/29/2019 4:45:08 AM



  • وَقُلْ لِلْمُؤْمِنَاتِ يَغْضُضْنَ مِنْ أَبْصَارِهِنَّ وَيَحْفَظْنَ فُرُوجَهُنَّ وَلَا يُبْدِينَ زِينَتَهُنَّ إِلَّا مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا ۖ وَلْيَضْرِبْنَ بِخُمُرِهِنَّ عَلَىٰ جُيُوبِهِنَّ ۖ وَلَا يُبْدِينَ زِينَتَهُنَّ إِلَّا لِبُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ آبَائِهِنَّ أَوْ آبَاءِ بُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ أَبْنَائِهِنَّ أَوْ أَبْنَاءِ بُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ إِخْوَانِهِنَّ أَوْ بَنِي إِخْوَانِهِنَّ أَوْ بَنِي أَخَوَاتِهِنَّ أَوْ نِسَائِهِنَّ أَوْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُهُنَّ أَوِ التَّابِعِينَ غَيْرِ أُولِي الْإِرْبَةِ مِنَ الرِّجَالِ أَوِ الطِّفْلِ الَّذِي
    And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss."
    The above statement states clearly that those people to whom a woman can display her beauty and ornaments.  Yet the verse does not mention she can review to same sex woman who is not her relatives. As the verse does not review that this woman can display her beauty or ornaments to any same sex woman who is not her family, it implies Quran discourages LBGT participation.  If Quran allows LBGT practice, why does the above verse does not mention she can display her beauty and ornaments to women who are not her relatives.

    By zuma - 6/27/2019 8:40:24 PM



  • LGBTQ is the living " Word of God. "Arguments against LBGTQ are steeped in Christian and Islamic religious dogma created by men not by God. I appeal to you to think about your thinking about your thinking about the LBGTQ community. You have been persuaded by other men to think that there is something wrong with the LBGTQ community but you must understand that everything created by God is good and very good. God created nature with everything in nature being a” word of God.” God spoke the world into existence. LBGTQ is a “word of God.” They are real living breathing beings created by God. Given the long and destructive history of mis-interpreted Christian and Islamic dogma, it is little wonder why the LBGTQ community is so hated. Preachers play a cruel game. They create sin so you can be saved from it. They fail to recognize the differences in men and women. They ignore nature and its biology which has all kinds of creatures that procreate with and without male fertilized eggs. Some creatures impregnate themselves. The LBGTQ community will never disappear from the world because they were created by God for God’s own purpose not the purpose of men. It is sad indeed that so many good people have been killed by those who have been convinced that LBGTQ is wrong. You must remember that Dr. Albert Einstein died still trying to understand the mind of God. Geniuses ponder the mind of God not fools who have seized upon a " man the idiot" false christian religious doctrine who cannot live their own beliefs.
     God doesn’t care about the morality of men.It is God’s morality that is real and will prevail eternally. Nature reflects God’s reality. Every living creature is the " word of God ."We should work hard to understand the morality of God’s reality not the morality of man's reality. The existence of the LBGTQ community proves the ” word of God .”  You will never be able to kill them off because God made them.God made man in his own image. Are you crazy enough to think that "God's word" is untrue ?The fake morality of contemporary christian men isn’t real. The falsity of the negative influences of Christianity on the lives of the LGBTQ community resulting in their public shunning and deaths will eventually fade into oblivion much like many of man’s beliefs in ancient gods and their defective ethics.It is God who gives the increase not man. The LGBTQ community will keep on being born into the world.They will be here until God returns. The history of the LBGTQ community has been documented in King James version of the Holy Bible covering centuries of man’s existence on this planet.Many in the roman armies that occupied the Hebrew lands during the times of Jesus Christ were homosexual.Many of the ancient emperors of Rome were LBGTQ and painted their faces with makeup believing themselves to be more beautiful than women. Many are putting forth  very poor effort in understanding the mind of God. Many have busied themselves instead with trying to understand the ignorant, weak, hypocritical thoughts of confused christian false prophets, many of which cannot read or write, who make a poor effort as a group to keep themselves out of the beds of the LBGTQ community and of underage children. The persecutors of the LGBTQ community are the ones who are " lost " because they are caught up in the religious dogma of Christianity and Islam when they should be caught up in understanding the ” word of God .”
     

    By Pelvo White, Jr. - 6/27/2019 1:42:27 PM



  • It is amusing how rabid apostates are as literalistic as rabid mullahs!


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 5/25/2019 11:49:17 AM



  • if islam/muslims are there can shariah be far behind?
    and add to it halaal enforcements, no-go shariah zones and of course an aggressive resistance to any kind of inclusion. forgot aggressive denigrating street dawah, occupying busy thoroughfares for aggressive piety, grooming kuffar girl children for casual forced sex and then start whining islamophobia when flagged.
    and some fool moderates claim islam is peaceful. and whine as if they are victims when actually they are the perpetrators.

    By hats off! - 5/25/2019 4:43:31 AM



  • "LGBT is against the Word of God, God Created Women for Men's Pleasure."

    nothing to do with 'something'.

    By hats off! - 5/25/2019 12:52:20 AM



  • "LGBT is against the Word of God, 'God Created Women for Men's Pleasure': British Muslims.'
    This is the height of stupidity. LGBT rights and gender equality are now widely accepted concepts. Let us not try to move things backwards.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 5/24/2019 5:27:59 PM