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Islamic Ideology (14 Jan 2015 NewAgeIslam.Com)




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  • Lodhia
    You are following GM unconsciously in not picking. You mmust define cult mentality?
    What is a cult and what is cultist mentality? What you call if somebody kills and being killed for the love and honor of prophet?
    What do you call somebody who can sacrifices his parwnts , children and relatives for the sake of unconditional love for prophet?

    By rational mohammed yunus - 2/6/2015 12:16:14 AM



  • Sultan Shahin Saheb,

     

    Subject: What Is Cult Mentality?  

     

    One of your forum’s most favorite commentators wrote to Muhammad Yunus Saheb, “Is it not cult mentality?

     

    You of all know well that Yunus Saheb is very well versed in the subject related to our Holy Quran. Therefore, I remain baffled by this particular question.

     

    For sure, those readers who have a highest respect for Muhammad Yunus Saheb, (which includes this humble Muslim), will certainly appreciate your kind response.

     

    Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia    


    By Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia - 2/5/2015 11:09:49 PM



  • Mohammed yunus saheb
    Many commentators are absent. Those who could write in support of fanciful attributes to the prophet. 
    Now to core of my objection against you.
    In this comment you called attributes of prophet fanciful not derogatory of insulting. Playing with words. You call it derogatory if I quote them and my comment hate speech for which I can be booked under law.
    Who attributed these derogatory and insulting stories to the prophet hz Mohammed who is dearest to you than anything in the world even parents who gave birth to you and brought you to a respectful position. Is it not cult mentality?
    Why fabricators of insulting stories are great personalities to you and quoter the lowest creature? Is justice dear you? You go in silence when I ask this question. 
    Muslims do khatm e bukhari for blessing and you call it derogatory. 
    You are applying double standard. Why harsh words are not for fabricators from your tongue?
    Is everything attached to Islam just beautiful? 
    I am sorry to say that you played double standard. Do you learn it from the Quran. I never quoted a false quotation. It can be verified. You have verified. 
    How can you be with victims of Charlie habdo killing if you have intense hate for who insult Islam in your view. You proved stand of killers with verbal war. They used guns you used words. Yet you show solidatory with victims. Is it due to your living in west?

    By rational mohammed yunus - 2/5/2015 10:57:22 PM



  • Dear Rational,
    You said " If you wrote an article to show that the prophet had no shadow or ilm e ghaib etc there will be a pile of comments from Sufi muslims"

    Well this is what I wrote in another article referenced below:

    The truth is the simple Muslims in early Islam created fanciful imageries around the person of the Prophet to make him a legendary and extra-ordinary figure. That included, among other things, colourful details about some of his marriages, which may sometimes be as imaginative as the stories surrounding the birth of the Prophet: a blaze of white light on Abdullah’s forehead as he went to consume marriage with his bride that led to the conception of Muhammad (Peace be upon him), light from Amina’s pregnant belly illuminating the night sky right up to Syria,  a violent earthquake made the palace of Chosroes the Great tremble, and shattered fourteen of its towers; the sacred fire, kept alight for more than a thousand years by Persian worshippers went out, all the idols of the universe were found with their heads bowed down in great shame and so forth. The early listeners of these accounts listened to them with awe and admiration as the bizarre and the fantabulous fired their imagination. Narrated today, they are simply gossipy or Islamic mythology rubber stamped as theology or weak Hadith.

    Ref: Defending the Prophet of Islam against Vulgar Charges from both Islamophobic and Radical Islamic Intellectuals and So Called Rationalists

    Only five or six people commented including yourself.

    Don't you differentiate between myth and truth. Have you really read the Qur'an with its simple meaning or are you among those who try to understand the Qur'an in light of Hadith and take all embellishments on their face value.    

    By muhammad yunus - 2/5/2015 9:33:01 AM



  • Article draws but a few comments. Why?
    Because either the article is not worth responding or Muslims specially sufis under the cloack of modernism opt silence. Majority of Muslims including moderates consider Hadith equal to the Quran or a key to understand the Quran.
    Best way to hide one's favor to hadith is silence. Their voice will expose the disease. So few keep writing to pull down the hadith one paddle below but the majority keep revering hadith equal or even higher than the Quran.
    The article is not well taken by peaceful Sufi Muslims of the site. If you wrote an article to show that the prophet had no shadow or ilm e ghaib etc there will be a pile of comments from Sufi muslims.


    By rational mohammed yunus - 1/28/2015 9:49:53 PM



  • Dear Bhandriji,

    The historical significance of Hadith is undeniable and noted as below in my article referenced below:

    "When the common people in Europe were sleeping in communal halls on haystacks in pitch darkness and had no more than a pair of clothes or leather jerkins to wear, and spent their whole winter indoors living on potato and porridge cooked over the left over in the same pot, year after year, and had no schools, colleges or centers of learning, the Muslims lived in great luxury and sophistication and popularized and advanced all forms of art, craft and knowledge at grass roots level that was beyond the imagination of their European counterparts. While their cultural superiority owed to their newfound Qur’anic wisdom, military successes, adoption of the cultural paradigms of the major civilizations they subsumed (the Romans, Egyptians, Persians, Indian for example) and an unremitting passion to acquire knowledge, the inner fabric of the society was immensely benefited by the ancestral wisdom, passed from generation to generation in the form of narrations or Hadith. The Hadith sciences covered practically all the activities of the community and fields of knowledge and provided a common set of paradigms that filled the gap in practical knowledge in the early centuries of Islam. Thus, Imam Bukhari’s compilation [2] is spread over 9 volumes, divided into a total of 93 sections (or books) and 3981 chapters. Broadly speaking, it covers the following areas of life:

    Agricultural activities: Sowing and planting of seeds, keeping a watchdog at the farm, use of oxen for ploughing, share cropping, distribution of water, use of wells, irrigation and dams, documentation, etc.

    Financial dealings: Bartering, advance booking of goods, sale and purchase of cattle-heads and property, collection of debt, lost and found, mortgaging, evaluation of joint property, dividing of houses, sharing of land, gold, silver, food, and slaves; bankruptcy, renting, transfer of debts, freezing of property, representation of authority etc.

    Legal matters: Litigation for executing the will of the deceased; fraud and cheating; status and handling of slave girls; law of inheritance, al-hudud (limits of punishment), blood money, coercion, sexual assault etc.

    Interpretation of selective Qur’anic verses: Beginning of creation, accounts of Adam's fall from the Paradise, blessings and healing powers of Qur'anic verses, description of the rewards and punishment in the Day of Judgement etc.

    There is a full chapter Book (XVI/Vol.3) on freeing of slaves and its superiority’. ‘Whoever frees a Muslim slave, God will save all the parts of his body from the (Hell) Fire (693). To free the most expensive and the most beloved slave (694), to free slaves at the time of solar eclipse (695) lunar eclipse (696), to educate and treat slave girls nicely then free them, and take them in wedlock (Acc.720, 723/Vol.3). Since some slaves were under joint ownership in those days, the Prophet is reported to have urged the rich partner to free such slaves completely (not partially) (697, 698, 699, 700, 701, 702) or alternatively the price of the slave is to be estimated, and the slave is to be helped to work without hardship till he pays the rest of his price (672, 704).

    Simple daily chores: Rising from sleep, cleaning of teeth, washing, bathing, ablution, dressing up, eating, keeping a pet, clipping of nail, cutting of hair, going for a walk, attending to natural call etc.

    Invocation to cover practically each of the daily rituals, including getting up in the morning, going to toilet, while ascending a high place, going down a valley, against and in favour of pagans, during and after prayer, while dusting the bed sheet before going to bed, while going to bed, sleeping on the right side, waking up at midnight, putting the right hand under right cheek etc. 

    Marriage: Its divine blessing, marrying a virgin, a matron, several women, one's own slave girl; who all are prohibited in marriage, presenting one's daughter or sister to a man, marrying off one's young children, beating the tambourine during the nikah, consummating marriage on journey, during the day, and with a nine year old girl; perfume for the bridegroom, etc.

    Different aspects of a divorce, including among others: giving the divorce during a woman’s monthly period, in a state of anger, using gestures to express divorce, divorcing thrice at a time, stoning a woman accused of adultery, remarriage after divorce etc.

    Emotions, wishes, afflictions, judgements, patients, medicines, interpretation of dreams, meals, aqiqa, slaughtering of animal, festivals, religious rites; personal virtues and manners; social norms etc.

    Armed conflicts, jihad, war-booty; the virtues of ansars, Medina, and the Prophet's companions, treatment of non-Muslims at peace and wartime etc.

    For its era, the knowledge contained in the Hadith enabled the growing Muslim community to lead a peaceful, harmonious and progressive life and contributed to the phenomenal rise of Islam. However, we must remember that human civilization has advanced by more than a millennium and the customs, methods and exigencies of life and the scope of knowledge has seen waves upon waves of changes and therefore we cannot lock ourselves to the glorious era of Hadith domination.

    The evolution of the Hadith sciences and the Prophet’s Sunna and the need for a Major Paradigm Shift regarding the role of the Hadith Corpus and the scope of Madrassa education.

    http://www.newageislam.com/NewAgeIslamIslamicShariaLaws_1.aspx?ArticleID=6581



    By muhammad yunus - 1/21/2015 9:27:51 PM



    • The following comment relocated under this thread where it belongs:
    • Hadith is not Divine like the Holy Quran which is supreme. Hadith comes at the second place. Even here the Agreed Upon Hadith is considered better than others. Among the sayings of the  Holy Prophet Mohammed PBUH perhaps Saying with the Divine Inspiration will have priority. This has  been discussed by scholars of the past and present. There might be some 'mixing' which needs to be checked at the touchstone of the teachings of the Holy Quran. Hadith is another  great thing which Islam has given to the world. Islam should be proud of the Hadith.
      By P.S. Bhandari - 1/21/2015 5:18:26 PM

    By muhammad yunus - 1/21/2015 8:02:14 PM




  • Well done, Mr Yunus.

    Here is a link I received a few days ago.

    The book  Biblical Mullahs: Discovering True Islam Behind The Myths is now up at Google Books. You can see it here :  https://play.google.com/store/search?q=Biblical%20Mullahs&c=books


     


    The book exposes  a lot of the misinformation Muslims have been fed over a long time leading to their misery and downfall. It certainly opened my eyes.


     


    It is worth acquiring the book and getting others to do the same. It cannot be copied or printed.It should generate a lot of comment.


     


     



    By A Khan - 1/15/2015 10:41:30 PM



  • Hadiths are neither holy nor binding. Some Hadiths containing genuine pearls of wisdom may be read just as we read works of Aesop, Voltaire or Ghalib.
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 1/14/2015 3:04:29 PM



  • If citing half a dozen reasons as to why the Quran is created cannot resolve the question whether it is created or not created, then why does Mr Yunus think that a similar exercise for the Ahadith can resolve the issue? 

    If the issue was resolvable, it would have been resolved by now and there would have been no need for his article. 


    By Observer - 1/14/2015 1:59:55 AM