Sharing this letter to Brother Yusuf Estes
having the link of this article in order to educate him out of any support to
agents of Saud engaged in killing Muslims pledged to Mowla Ali ,Imam Hussain
and all aulias: Brother Yusuf, Save yourself from hellfire since this woman
Gulshan Aalani is a criminal slave of those who do not accept the Luminous
existence of prophet Muhammad PBUH and HP. She is pledged to terrorist Wahhabis
engaged in killing Sufi Muslim Singer of prophet SUH and HP being NOOR e
MUJASSAM which means LIGHT of Allah SwT embodied. I am pledged to SUFI chain
here in India affirming the Fatimid Leader of aal e Ibraheem in aal e Ali
Imraan Abu Talib decreed in verse 3:33,34 for global allegiance being the Hand
of Allah, Rope of Allah SwT. ismailignosis.com/2014/10/02/who-succeeded-imam-jafar-al-sadiq-seven-proofs-for-the-imamat-of-imam-ismail-ibn-jafar/
is the proof for the presence of divinely chosen leader. We are confronting
usurpers of the idenity of Khalifa of Allah SwT as momineen always following
the Sunna of Momineen in this regard. You may find this article instructive
since reformation of faith is not possible
without pledging allegiance to Imam e Zamana for all not belonging to the
community of Momineen pledged to Imam e Zamana. '
Singhji Bedi, Somehow one of my comments on this page as an answer to Naseer
Saheb Observer's one observation has got published as an article by you and is
available on at least two widely available pages, one by Yahoo and another by
I am going
to use this comment or part of it, in an edited version, in one of my speeches
at the UN Human Rights Council.
I would not
like people to think that I have stolen these paragraphs from your write-up. I
would be grateful if you get it removed by these sites or change the writer's
name, although I didn't really want it to go as an article by me. At least
people will think I have stolen from my own article, I am referring to the
following comment I made in this article in response to a comment by Observer.
referring to the following comment I made in this article in response to a
comment by Observer:
“A literal reading of verses like La ikraha fid Deen (There
is no compulsion in religion or Lakum Deeanakum waleya Deen (For
you your religion, for me mine) is a cornerstone of every moderate's
philosophy. These are constitutive verses of the Quran and eternal in
significance. They are valid for us for all time.
The problem arises with contextual and allegorical verses when
they are taken literally or even interpreted according to one's own
understanding. The problem arises when so-called militant verses are taken
literally, considered valid for all time as exhortations of God to all Muslims
forever, and followed as they are today. ISIS leaders may have their own
designs, but our children and youth, boys and girls who are running away from
our well-appointed homes and private schools are doing so out of a literal
reading of these so-called militant aggressive verses and considering them
universal in nature. Being uncreated, all Qur’anic verses are considered and
taught in madrasas as having eternal value as guidance for all time to come.
One allegorical verse is being interpreted to mean that Malhama (Armageddon)
is only two years away. Daesh (Islamic State) is said to be fighting the
end-time battle Malhama. This is also one reason why
our youth are running away to engage in the battles end-times, the Malhama.
“I therefore, think, merely literal reading of all Qur’anic
verses, without reference to the context of contextual verses, or even
personal, contorted interpretations of allegorical verses will be a
disaster, is already leading to disaster.
We must treat Quran as a created work by God which contains constitutive,
contextual and allegorical verses which have to be treated by us in different
times and different contexts differently. Which means that we should observe
Qur’anic advise that we use our rationality and think all the time before
accepting anything blindly. A literal reading of all Qur’anic
verses cannot be acceptable.
By Sultan Shahin - 3/10/2015 5:48:17 AM
This part of the comment
appears as your article at least in the following links:
To: Respected Muslim Readers @
New Age Islam
Slowly but surely, the real
character of “Secular Logic,” will be known to all. At one given point
in time, the person claimed to be a wife of “Hats Off – S. Jeelani.”
Now, the reference is made towards “Gay.”
Let’s look at the two words about
Islam, that is, “powerful idea.” In fact, that is how the bigoted person
looks at it. Isn’t it amazing for an educated person to come to such a
For sure, one can admire Hinduism
without believing in God, but at the same time, one can never, I repeat
never, have any good things to say about Islam, no matter what moderate reasoning
is presented. Yet still, the whole idea behind reading the “Secular Logic,”
comments, is that this very person opens the windows of the world for the
Have patience, my fellow Muslims.
More bigoted views will flow through. I will be keeping an eye on any “Twisted
Logic,” that are posted on New Age Islam forum. Take care.
Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia
Now, kindly share it with “Secular
Logic.” Let’s see, if he/she can answer what “Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia” has
to go through.
“Mohtram Rafiq Bhai, Salaam
I have already replied all your
points in my letter but, perhaps, you never cared to understand what I have written about Modi
and his shortcomings and now blowing up your own trumpet against Muslim while
forgetting intentionally all the aggressive designs of Western hippocracy of
the west against Muslim Ummah and its Zulm in the Muslim world. You have
mentioned only the case of Palestine only and very conveniently ignored the
butchering Modi government his Zulm in Kashmir. Where you stand?
Please go through my letter AFRESH and all your answers are
therein. You have "DEVIATED" from the path of understanding it
Before ending I must refer to the
explanation of Maulana Wahiduddin Saheb of Verse 25 of Surah Al-Hadeed. He is a
brother who differs from the very concept of Iqamatuddeen and is deadly against
Maulana Maudoodi Merhoom and he is now serving the cause of Indian Government
to limit Islam just to ritualistic code
only. Why don't you please study Tafheem. Tadabbur, Ma'reful Qur'an and
Fi Zelalur Qur'an and understand the
Verse in the light of the life pattern of Rasulullah (S). You are depending
conveniently on a deviated Scholar.
You better get rid of Modi-phobia
that is hovering in your mind. You haven't answered any of my point and raised
the question that were not the subject matter of discussion.”
“Secular Logic,” got
highly pissed off this morning. Why not? He finally realized that one Muslim
can stand up to him. For long, he/she has been insulting “Moderate Muslims,” and now, you all read his instant
reaction to what he called, “Hate Steroids.” He/she forgot that was the norm of every single day which was adopted
for so long against the Muslims.
In any case, let “Secular
Logic,” read and try to comprehend what Muslims like us has to go through
every single day. One should ask a question, “How can an avowed bigot
Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia
Respected Muslim Readers @ New Age Islam
and behold! All of a sudden it is now Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia, who provides hate steroids
every morning. Did I not inform all the readers that “Secular Logic,”
will strike back again! He sure did, didn’t he? Who cares about the person’s
true identity. A bigot will always remain a bigot.
there to be critical about Islam? One has to be critical about Muslims who lost
their way into the wilderness. Bigoted people will always take delight in insulting
Islam. There is no better example than “Secular Logic,” who almost
always praised “Ex-Tablighi.” What’s common between these two people? Your guess is as
good as mine.
again, who is shutting them up? I am merely questioning the bigot, who simply cannot
answer tough questions about his own religion. Oops! I forgot, this Dr. Jekyll
and Mr. Hyde is deceptive person with “Unclean Heart.” One day, he/she is all out
praising his belief in his/her religion, and then the next day, there is a
constant bragging about not believing in God.
then, it is hard to get into the ring when the dual character of the person is fully
exposed. Sure, blame it on the “Moderate Muslims.” What else is new?
I am the most biased and bigoted
commentator on New Age Islam forum, who deliberately ignore to comment on
anything that pertains to my own culture and religion.
Therefore, proved. My hidden name
is “Secular Logic.” Therefore, I can insult, whomever I want to.
Henceforth, proven further, without a shadow of doubt.
Thank you for
setting the record straight on “The Divinity of the Holy Quran.” It is
Allah bless you and your beloved family members.
Ishaque Foujdar Saheb,
I beg your
pardon for answering directly to Sultan Shahin Saheb, Editor of New Age Islam.
speaking, I have never ever claimed to be an Islamic scholar. I am just an
ordinary Muslim, who happens to possess a strong faith in the Holy Quran, which
was divinely revealed to our beloved Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him).
Now you tell
me, as a Muslim, “Do you recite Hadith of Sahih Bukhari or Sahih Muslim, in
your five time prayers?” Obviously, the answer will be a flat “No,”
from your side. May I ask, “Why are you then, trying to convince the readers of
New Age Islam that ‘only faith in Hadith is an authentic base for a true
Saheb, it will be wise on your part not to question the “Intelligence,” of
common Muslims. Respecting Hadiths is one thing, but considering it divine is
another. To my simple mind, it is a blatant act of “Shirk.”
are aware of the Quranic verse, “this is the book; there is no doubt in it.
It is a guide for those who are mindful of God, who believe in the unseen.”
Make a note of a single word “unseen.” Hence, all the talk about “created”
and “uncreated” is absolutely nonsense.
All in all, try not to create doubt and mislead your fellow Muslims by stating,
“your faith is only on speculation, without any authentic proof, very weak
faith.” What you are literally trying to do, is to appeal to Muslims, to drift
away from the Holy Quran. To me, such a baseless proclamation is nothing but “Blasphemy.” Therefore,
kindly spare me all of your senseless arguments.
Dear Ghulam Rasool Dehlvi Saheb, the relevant question is: do
we consider these contextual verses applicable to us today or do we not? Unless you come out
clearly with your views on this question, there is no point in contextualising verses that you
demand, something that has already been done and is largely known, though there
is some controversy on some verses. Knowing the context and considering or not
considering these verses as applicable to us as divine guidance in this day and
age is quite another. I refer to these comments from you:
"Muslims find it
difficult to change their traditional belief regarding the uncreatedness of the
holy Qur'an. Perhaps, they see no point at all in relating the universal and
out-of-context application of the Qur'anic verses with the Qur'an being created
By Ghulam Rasool
Dehlvi - 3/10/2015 10:26:20 AM
"Mr. Sultan Shahin
has very rightly pointed out that literalism is the root cause of murder and
mayhem in the name of so called militant verses of the Quran. Until we start contextualising the verses of
Quran according to their Shan-e-nuzul
or reason for revelation, we cannot hope
any Islamic reformation in today's Muslim societies." By Ghulam Rasool Dehlvi -
3/9/2015 1:45:11 PM
Behold! There are countless millions of Muslims like “Foujdars.” Their twisted logic is as
Wahhi that the Quran is a Book of Allah. Only faith in Hadith is an authentic
base for a true Muslim regarding this matter.”
nothing much, you nor anyone, can do about it. Lack of faith in the Holy Quran
is the root cause of all the mayhem and chaos in the Islamic countries.
says, “What is wrong with them that they do not believe? When the Quran is read
to them, why do they not fall to their knees?”
one is only left wondering, what sort of Muslim mind will comment as follows:
“I think, you
believe that the Quran is a revealed Book by Allah, Your this faith is only on speculation, without any
authentic proof, very weak faith. May be, you have gotten Wahhi direct from
Allah or by Gabriel. Please explain it.”
So help us
Almighty Allah. There is absolutely no need to explain anything. Let these
Muslims continue to dwell in the “Science of Hadiths.”
Mohammad Ishaque Foujdar Saheb, I think this is what every Muslim believes in. "that the Quran is a revealed Book by Allah," is my faith as that of every Muslim, I believe.
You ask me to explain the following: "Your this faith is only on speculation, without any authentic proof, very weak faith. May be, you have gotten Wahhi direct from Allah or by Gabriel. Please explain it. "
I must say I don't have any proof that might satisfy you. We, of course, know this from Quran, but apparently this will not satisfy you.
You will just have to allow me to be a Muslim, believing like all Muslims that Quran is a collection of revelations from God that came to the Prophet, first in Mecca as a foundation for the religion of Islam, and then from time to time to help him respond to developing situations.
I must say I am a little mystified with your question. Maybe I could not understand it properly or you failed to pose your question properly. If so, please try again.
Dear Readers of New Age Islaam,
What is needed is not "reformation" but "restitution" of Islam as lived by the Prophet Muhammad, sallallahu 'aleyhe wa sellem. The terrorists' evil deeds are based on the reformist idea of ignoring all the ahaadith (not only the words but also the practice of) of the Prophet (and the lives of the sahaaba-e kiraam and their followers, the four ahl-e sunnat imaams) and basing their belief on "word by word translation" of the Qur'aan al-kareem or the ahaadith just by picking up one verse. (As might be strikingly exemplified by the fake interpretation of the aayat meaning "do not aapproach salaat, ..." by some Hayyaamist people.)
To be the real followers of Muhammad Rasuulullaah, the true Muslims have to learn and understand the Word of Allaah as did the Rasuulullaah sallallaahu 'aleyhe wa sellem and the sahaaba-e kiraam radhiyallaahu 'anhumaa.
My article who is a
Kafir went unsupported by and large.
So I assume that the beliefs of most Sunnis are in accordance with what I have said in my article about Sunni theology.
Has Sunni theology changed for the better since the medieval times? I doubt it.
"Some Muslim scholars, however, advocate that the non-Muslims
(in its present day sense), who do not believe in the Prophet Muhammad, will
not qualify for God’s mercy. They interpret the generic word islam (submitting/ orienting oneself to God, Ch.
7) in the verse 3:85 (underlined below), in its popular restrictive
sense as the religion of the followers of the Prophet Muhammad. This is
misleading as the preceding verses (3:83-84), demonstrate the generic
character of the word islam appearing
“Do they seek any (religion) other than the din (religion) of
God, to whom all in the heavens and on earth have submitted, willingly or
unwillingly, and to whom they will all be returned (3:83)? Say: ‘We
believe in God, and in what has been revealed to us, and in what has been
revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the tribes, and to Jesus and
Moses and (other) prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any
of them; and surely to Him do we all submit (muslimun)’ (84). If anyone
seeks other than islam as a din (religion), it will not be accepted of him,
and in the hereafter he will be among the losers”(3:85).
"The foregoing argument also holds for the identically worded
verses 9:33 and 61:9 (Note 226/Ch. 3), some scholars quote to claim
exclusivity of Islamic faith:
“Neither your desires, nor the desires of the People of the Book
(can prevail): whoever does evil will be requited accordingly, and he will not
find any protector or helper besides God” (4:123).
But this is not
correct Observer Sb as far as moderates are concerned. You say: "Unsurprisingly,
the interpretationists are neither able to accept what I say, nor able to
refute it because both groups do not hold "let there be no compulsion in
religion" and "to you (those who reject Islam) be your way and to me
mine" are to be taken literally and valid at all times."
literal reading of verses like La ikraha fid Deen (There is no
compulsion in religion or Lakum Deeanakum waleya Deen (For you your
religion, for me mine) is a cornerstone of every moderate's philosophy. These
are constitutive verses of the Quran and eternal in significance. They are
valid for us for all time.
problem arises with contextual and allegorical verses when they are taken
literally or even interpreted according to one's own understanding. The problem
arises when so-called militant verses are taken literally, considered valid for
all time as exhortations of God to all Muslims forever, and followed as they
are today. ISIS leaders may have their own designs, but our children and youth,
boys and girls who are running away from our well-appointed homes and private
schools are doing so out of a literal reading of these so-called militant
aggressive verses and considering them universal in nature. Being uncreated,
all Qur’anic verses are considered and taught in madrasas as having eternal
value as guidance for all time to come.
allegorical verse is being interpreted to mean (you can check on You Tube, I
don't have the url now with key words Islamic eschatology, Islamic scholarship
that studies the signs of end-times, Yawm al-Qiyāmah) that Malhama
(Armageddon) is only two years away. Daesh (Islamic State) is said to be
fighting the end-time battle Malhama. This is also one reason why
our youth are running away to engage in the battles end-times, the Malhama.
therefore, think, merely literal reading of all Qur’anic verses, without
reference to the context of contextual verses, or even personal,
contorted interpretations of allegorical verses will be a disaster, is
already leading to disaster.
must treat Quran as a created work by God which contains constitutive,
contextual and allegorical verses which have to be treated by us in different
times and different contexts differently. Which means that we should observe Qur’anic
advise that we use our rationality and think all the time before accepting
anything blindly. A literal reading of all Qur’anic verses cannot be acceptable.
Kufr = Denial or rejection of the Truth = Concealing the Truth = Ingratitude = Choosing to live in the darkness of ignorance = Hiding or covering something = Closing eyes to the light of Truth = Stubborn denial of the Truth = Concealing the Truth = Knowingly oppose the Truth = Uncritical adherence to ancestral views = Trying to be with the majority without discernment.
Kafir = One given to Kufr = One who adamantly denies the truth = Commonly translated as ‘infidel’ = Derivatively and positively, a farmer who hides the seed under the soil (57:20). Therefore, Kufr or Kafir does not apply to the unaware, anyone to whom the Message has not been conveyed or reached.
me state my position once again.
Islam is fundamentally and literally a
religion of peace and moderation as per the Quran
Anybody can take me up on this and refute
it. Since I have written several articles based on the Quran, they can choose
any article for their refutation.
The most recent ones are:
Is A Kafir In The Quran? (Part 1): 'Kafir,' 'Mushrik' and 'Idolater' are not
URL of Part 1: http://www.newageislam.com/islam-and-pluralism/by-observer-in-new-age-islam/who-is-a-kafir-in-the-quran?-(part-1)---kafir,---mushrik--and--idolater--are-not-synonyms/d/101509
Is A Kafir In The Quran? (Part 2): Muslim– Non-Muslim Relationship
URL of Part 2: http://www.newageislam.com/islam-and-pluralism/observer-in-new-age-islam/who-is-a-kafir-in-the-quran?-(part-2)--muslim–-non-muslim-relationship/d/101525
Is A Kafir In The Quran? (Part 3): Why Kufr Is A Relative Concept While Shirk,
Idol Worship Etc. Have Fixed Meanings
URL of Part 3: http://newageislam.com/islam-and-pluralism/observer-for-new-age-islam/who-is-a-kafir-in-the-quran?-(part-3)--why-kufr-is-a-relative-concept-while-shirk,-idol-worship-etc-have-fixed-meanings/d/101618
is a Kafir in the Quran? (Part 4) Defining Kufr
URL of Part 4: http://newageislam.com/islam-and-pluralism/observer-for-new-age-islam/who-is-a-kafir-in-the-quran?-(part-4)-defining-kufr/d/101695
is a Muslim in the Quran?
Now if you are saying that this is not
true, and being a moderate requires not being a fundamentalist and a
literalist, then the argument of the extremist and the Islamophobe stands
proven. Isn't their argument that the moderates are not true Muslims and the
extremists are the true representative of Islam because the moderates are not
fundamentalists and literalists and the extremist are?
The problem actually is that neither the
"moderates" nor the extremists are fundamentalists and literalists.
They both are interpretationists
Dear pcs, Quran being created doesn't mean by any stretch of imagination
created by the Prophet (pbuh), it means created by God. The debate is on
whether it is word of God, created by God or Divine like God, God Himself,
another God, fit only for reverence and parrot-like recitation (Qir'at)
the way most Muslims treat the Quran. As God Himself, it is considered
unapproachable, not necessary to understand, be treated as a book, even if
containing words of God. Perhaps for Arabs, or Arabic-speaking people, it won't
be such a big issue, as they would understand the message, even if they are
simply reciting without making a particular effort to understand.
Anyway, this discussion has nothing to do with your question about "created
by Prophet." I could not understand your statement: "As per hadees,
there are few claims by Umar -2nd khalifa - that he said so and the next revelation -was
his words !!! "
If there is any such hadees, please give
some reference and quote the hadees. In any case hades doesn't have much
credibility for any rational Muslim in terms of its authenticity. A Muslim may
or may not consider any particular hadees authentic. Even nice-sounding
ahadees, compatible with Quran and the character of the Prophet as a saint, do
not necessarily have to be authentic. Some very nice were discovered in early
years by the collectors to have been concocted by otherwise very good Muslims
who put some nice thoughts into the mouth of the Prophet just so these thoughts
would have greater credibility. Don't forget that ahadees were collected
centuries after the demise of the prorphet; out of six hundred thousand
ahadees, only around four thousand were found to have correct chain of
narration, meaning that the people mentioned in the chain of narration actually
existed in that era, and there was a possibility of these ahadees being
authentic. This is all that collectors of sahih ahadees claim. But if Muslims,
and admittedly most Muslims, consider them authentic, that is their problem.
The book is a created one - agreed
As per hades,there are few claims by Umar -2nd khalifa - that he said so and the next revelation -was his words !!!
Some educated people should read this and explain who created the book .. God or prophet ?
THE NEXT PART OF THE
majority of Muslim clerics say the group cherry picks what it wants from
Islam's holy book, the Quran, and from accounts of Muhammad's actions and
sayings, known as the Hadith. It then misinterprets many of these, while
ignoring everything in the texts that contradicts those hand-picked selections,
these experts say.
claim to adhere to the prophecy and example of Muhammad helps explain its
appeal among young Muslim radicals eager to join its ranks. Much like Nazi
Germany evoked a Teutonic past to inspire its followers, Islamic State
propaganda almost romantically depicts its holy warriors as re-establishing the
caliphate, contending that ideal of Islamic rule can come only through blood
its worst brutalities — beheading captives, taking women and girls as sex
slaves and burning to death a captured Jordanian pilot — only prove its purity
in following what it contends is the prophet's example, a claim that appalls
the majority of the world's 1.6 billion Muslims.
Lee Keath &
How 'Islamic' is the
Islamic State? Not very, say experts
The Christian Science
March 2, 2015
TO TEACH CHILDREN HOW TO
schools, however, disinterested teachers with dismal salaries, combined with a
lack of regulatory frameworks for ensuring the quality of education, translates
into poor capabilities of public school students. The last recourse available
for aspiring younglings is the seminary, where not only is the education
relatively cheap — or in most cases free — but so are the dining and lodging
facilities. Seminaries face no trouble in raising funding for
financing their education wings, since they appeal to the religio-charitable
susceptibilities of their donors. However, because of their insistence on
suppressing dissenting minds and their propagation of millenarian ideologies,
contemporary Pakistan is yet to see genuine research coming out of such places.
is compounded further when you factor in the different curricula that are
taught in each of these three categories of schools, as well as the dissimilar
avenues of schooling available to the differing genders. Some schools
emphasise the instruction of English language over everything else, whereas
others reject western education in its entirety. Furthermore, gender
discrimination manifests itself in terms of the number of primary, secondary
and higher-level schools available for girls, and helps little in disrupting
the rigid perception that affords only a limited role to females in our
if we can control such imbalances, there is a major disconnect between the
texts that students are made to learn in class and what they experience in
their real lives. While some of the more theoretical aspects of the curriculum
may never be used in practice, most of the stuff has to do with daily
experience. Be it the sciences or the arts, the real purpose
of education is to make sense of the world around us but Pakistani students
remain forever stuck in an artificial divide between the classroom and
everything outside of it.
purpose of any and all education must be to teach children how to think, not
what to think.
Syed Rashid Munir
E for education, R for
reform – Link to the Article
March 3, 2015
OUR CHILDREN DESERVE A
CONSISTENT INTELLECTUAL FOUNDATION
inconsistency in this curriculum is obvious. For example, at the outset of the
school year, my son brought home a list of student rights and responsibilities.
Had he already read the lesson on fact vs. opinion, he might have noted that the
supposed rights of other students were based on no more than opinions.
According to the school’s curriculum, it certainly wasn’t true that his
classmates deserved to be treated a particular way — that would make it a fact.
Similarly, it wasn’t really true that he had any responsibilities — that would
be to make a value claim a truth. It should not be a surprise that there is
rampant cheating on college campuses: If we’ve taught our students for 12 years
that there is no fact of the matter as to whether cheating is wrong, we can’t
very well blame them for doing so later on.
the world beyond grade school, where adults must exercise their moral knowledge
and reasoning to conduct themselves in the society, the stakes are greater.
There, consistency demands that we acknowledge the existence of moral facts. If
it’s not true that it’s wrong to murder a cartoonist with whom one disagrees,
then how can we be outraged? If there are no truths about what is good or
valuable or right, how can we prosecute people for crimes against humanity? If
it’s not true that all humans are created equal, then why vote for any
political system that doesn’t benefit you over others?
do amazing things with our children. And they are, in a way, teaching moral standards
when they ask students to treat one another humanely and to do their schoolwork
with academic integrity. But at the same time, the curriculum sets our children
up for doublethink. They are told that there are no moral facts in one breath
even as the next tells them how they ought to behave.
We can do
better. Our children deserve a consistent intellectual foundation. Facts are
things that are true. Opinions are things we believe. Some of our beliefs are
true. Others are not. Some of our beliefs are backed by evidence. Others are
not. Value claims are like any other claims: either true or false, evidenced or
not. The hard work lies not in recognizing that at least some moral claims are
true but in carefully thinking through our evidence for which of the many
competing moral claims is correct. That’s a hard thing to do. But we can’t
sidestep the responsibilities that come with being human just because it’s
That would be
Justin P. McBrayer
Why Our Children Don’t
Think There Are Moral Facts
The New York Times
March 2, 2015
I WAS SEDUCED BY THE
the notion of statehood, democratic theory and Middle Eastern power politics
certainly takes a degree of intellectual sophistication, but it does not make
an idealistic young person less vulnerable to exploitation by skilled
recruiters. Regardless of good grades, they may suffer from a crisis of identity
or grievances that radicalizers can prey on.
The desire to
impose any religion on society is an inherently repugnant idea, but it is not
so among many British Muslims. For decades, we’ve allowed Islamist ideologues
to work unfettered across our communities, to the extent that Islamism has
become the default form of political expression for many young Muslims in
Britain and across Europe.
The leap from
being an ordinary British teenager to joining the Islamic State is huge. But it
is a much smaller step for someone raised in a climate in which dreams of
resurrecting a caliphate and enforcing a distorted form of Islam are
normalized. Until we confront this seeming legitimacy of Islamist discourse at
the grass roots, we will not stop the scourge of radicalization.
The Education of ‘Jihadi
John’ – Link to the Article
The New York Times
A MOSQUE AND A TEMPLE
EXIST IN HARMONY
serious revision of text books that portray minorities as the other could be
the first step in this direction. Pakistani state’s attempts to overhaul the
country in the face of existential nihilistic Taliban threat would remain
meaningless unless well-being and equality for minorities is not ensured. It is
now or never for Pakistan to understand diversity is a strength that needs to
be nurtured. The sooner it is realised, the better it would be for the state at
crossroads and corroding from within courtesy Zia’s toxic legacy of exclusion
dating back to the 1980s.
Pakistani Hindus are a
resilient minority too – Link to the Article
The Times of India
February 25, 2015
A WITCH-HUNT ON CAMPUSES
have long been waiting for an excuse to pounce. In November members of the
Chinese Red Culture Institute, a group of scholars and retired senior
officials, held a meeting in Beijing at which they complained that Marxism was
in retreat and that scholars with Western backgrounds had “sneaked” into
academia and government, according to Chinese Social Sciences Today, a journal.
“Those who smash the Communist Party’s cooking pot...we will take away their
bowls,” participants are said to have vowed.
February 28, 2015
OPEN MINDS WILL MAKE A
those in Afghanistan who do not want women and girls to be educated. If we are
to make lasting change, we need to open the minds of all who are still
ignorant. They need to see that an educated girl or boy is not a threat to
their culture, but is someone who will help to improve the whole community.
The women who
come to our centers feel the same way. Men and boys need to be educated, not
ignored. They need to be included in workshops and seminars with women and
girls so that they can listen and exchange ideas and know that education is not
a threat to them but is something that improves the lives of everyone.
Dr. Sakena Yacoobi
In Afghanistan, teaching
men that education is not a threat
February 19, 2015
A SETTING FOR A MORALLY
conversation about Islam may be noisy and confusing, but it isn’t new. And
these forgotten images remind us to avoid the old tendency to portray
Muslims—now millions of our fellow citizens—solely as caricatured villains in
scary stories or cardboard paragons in moral ones.
Images of Islam – Link to the Article
The Wall Street Journal
February 27, 2015
THE STRUGGLE WITHIN ISLAM
Obama is inclined not to describe the Islamic State as “Islamic,” and the king
supports this, saying, “They’re looking for legitimacy that they don’t have
inside of Islam.” But the truth is that it’s irrelevant what Obama wants to
call these terrorists. What matters is what the king and other locals here in
Jordan and across the Arab world call them. And uniformly, they choose not to
call it the Islamic State, ISIS or ISIL. Instead, they call it Daesh, a rough
acronym that is seen as derogatory because it sounds like the Arabic word
“daes,” which means to crush underfoot. The word that King Abdullah prefers is
“khawarij,” which translates to “outlaws” or “renegades” of Islam.
“It’s not a
Western fight,” the king said to me. “This is a fight inside of Islam where
everybody comes together against these outlaws.” He wants international support
and involvement, of course, but is wary of Western troops. Jordan is on the
front line of this battle, but other countries, from Iraq to Egypt, are finally
joining in, and not just on the battlefield. This week, the head of Cairo’s
Al-Azhar University, Sunni Islam’s most prestigious academy, denounced
“extremist violent groups” that have “corrupt interpretations” of Islam.
How to fight an
ideological war – Link to the Article
February 26, 2015
THE ROOTS OF EXTREMISM
The doctrines of jihad and takfir are
central to the debate. Extremists interpret jihad as mandating offensive holy
war, though they may disagree about when and against whom it should be waged.
The evidence from the hadith (the Prophet’s sayings) and renowned scholars that
Islam is a religion of the sword is “so profuse that only a heretic would argue
otherwise”, claims the most recent issue of Dabiq, the magazine of Islamic
State (IS). Extremists differ, too, about takfir, the process whereby Muslims
declare other Muslims to be apostates or unbelievers, for which the penalty is
death. Al-Qaeda applies the doctrine with some limits to avoid alienating
Muslims from its cause; IS invokes takfir wholesale, especially against Shias,
perhaps in the belief that cinematic gore is the stronger lure.
Mainstream clerics are trying to rebut such
views. “Jihad does not mean holy war but striving to achieve peace and anything
good in obedience to Allah,” says Dauda Bello, an imam from Nigeria’s
north-eastern region, where Boko Haram, an Islamist insurgent group, rampages.
Last year 120 Muslim scholars wrote to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, IS’s leader,
saying that he had misconstrued Islam by ignoring the context of the Koran,
classical teaching and the current era. Takfir, they said, can only be
pronounced on those who have openly professed unbelief. It is properly carried
out only by ulema (a group of recognised experts in sacred law and theology),
which will first offer the opportunity to repent. To prove the point, al-Azhar
will not call IS non-Muslims.
THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK
The relations of Jews, Christians, Israel
and the entire Judeo-Christian Western world with Islamic world are determined
not by the proclaimed attractive slogans but ultimately by the fact that both
sides are the people of the Book, and they are guided by their Books. The Jews
are famous as the people of the Torah; the Christians revere the Bible, and the
Muslims are guided by the Koran. Thus all people are the people of the Book –
people of their Books. And even atheists are a sort of people of the Book since
they follow the moral prescripts of their Books without acknowledging the
Supreme Power as the author. At the core of current adversary relationships of
Jews and Christians with Islamists are profound differences in the moral
prescripts of Torah/Bible and Koran.
The majority in the Judeo-Christian world
believes in the unique moral and economic benefits of Western civilization
based on the moral concepts of the Jewish Torah and the Christian Bible – that
is Ten Commandments and their derivatives. They consider their duty to help the
rest of the world to realize the advantages of this civilization and to begin
gradually moving to this civilization’s moral prescripts. Of course in this
civilization there are killers, rapists, terrorists, but these days they don’t
justify their actions by referring to the Torah/Bible prescripts – they are
sinning against those prescripts.
The majority in the Islamic world follows
the Koran’s guidance. For Muslims, Koran is the ultimate life guidance, and
Koran is calling for eradication of unbelievers-infidels with no mercy for Jews
and some mercy for Christians. All terrorist acts of Islamists against Jews and
Christians, all abusive actions against their own women and murderous actions
against their people with non-traditional life-style are being made with the
reference to Koran’ guidance. While Judeo-Christian world acknowledges and
accepts the validity of other religions, Islamic world is trying to eliminate
all other religions but Islam.
How to handle Islamic assault on Jews, Israel and
Link to the Article
The Jerusalem Post
You have been
persistent in passing along “Philosophical Thoughts,” to ponder over. I appreciate
your kind gesture. Though, I must point out that New Age Islam forum is not for philosophical discourse so to
speak. In short, to your question, “Where do I stand?” Here is my
Muslims are not bothered to read any philosophical discourses. Meanwhile, I
would like to invite you to visit the following blogs:
Blessed Are The Meek Reading is Living We The Moderate MuslimsKnowledge Is Power
can exchange private emails. For your kind information, my email address is: firstname.lastname@example.org
cheerful day. May Bhagwaan/Ishwar bless you and your loved ones.
A GENUINE AMERICAN SENTIMENT ON THE MIDDLE EAST CRISIS
If Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (Bibi) were smart, he
could simultaneously avoid being used as an anti-Obama Republican tool, present
himself as a statesman and peacemaker and improve U.S.-Israel relations.
What if Bibi thanked America for helping build Israel’s economy,
supporting it domestically and internationally, and consistently vetoing
anti-Israel U.N. resolutions? Then he could mention that America’s in a bind:
Its Iraq and Afghanistan wars helped create al-Qaida and the Islamic State,
destabilize the Middle East and surrounded Israel with violence. America
subverted, vilified and sanctioned Iran, helped kill hundreds of thousands of Iranians
and Kurds with U.S. weapons, and now asks for help to defeat the Islamic State,
while making anti-nuclear demands. How would you expect Iran to react?
Israel is dealing with 4 million stateless Palestinians, refugees from
the 1948 war that Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi and Iran started.
Only Jordan helped resettlethose refugees. America needs to help pressure all
seven countries to help resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. But that
won’t happen until the U.S. stops making a mess of the Middle East.
It’s time America helped rebuild Middle East economies — so their
unemployed young men and women can go to work instead of war. It’s time for America to
stop propping up dictators, start supporting democracy, fight corruption, and
move away from dependence on Middle East oil.
Netanyahu’s visit: The U.S. is in a bind – Link to the Article
The Seattle Times
February 23, 2015
THOSE WHO EMBRACE JIHADIST IDEAS ON SOCIAL MEDIA
Instead, we should think small, in part because in the West the
problem involves small numbers of potential terrorists: thousands, not
millions. The focus should be on high-risk communities, both Muslim and non-Muslim.
Prisons, for example, are breeders of terrorists, and ensuring that radicals do
not dominate religious instruction behind bars and that there are programs (and
intelligence agents) in place to stop terrorist recruitment is vital.
Particularly important is targeting what terrorism expert William
McCants calls “law -abiding supporters” — those who embrace jihadist ideas on
social media or are otherwise clearly at risk of joining a terrorist group, but
have not yet broken the law. Using community interventions and other means to
move these people off the path of violence will prevent the stark choice of
jail or Syria, and give family members of potential recruits a reason to seek
out government help.
Five myths about violent extremism – Link to the Article
The Washington Post
February 13, 2015
In response to my
"polite comment to Asif Reyaz Saheb" which came to you as a
surprise, you are not being very polite, if I may say so, Lodhia Saheb. .Why on
earth would I "encourage those commentators from insulting
As for insults, different people may have
different parameters. I feel insulted at blind faith in Ahadees as "authentic"
sayings of the Prophet, while knowing
full well that some of them are scurrilous in nature and clear attempts at
character assassinations of the Prophet.
feel insulted when someone quotes a hadees to show you a mirror. If you don't
like your face in the mirror, please do something about your face, don't break
the mirror and don't abuse the mirror-holder. I have, of course, censored
ahadees on this site, as they were truly unprintable. But, in principle, no
Islamic website should be expected to ban Qur'anic verses and ahadees, as
long as Muslims consider all verses of Quran, including the contextual and
belligerent as eternal guidance for them, and have blind faith in all ahadees
in the six so-called authentic books of ahadees. Let us do something about this
blind faith, instead of feeling insulted. Feeling insulted, breaking mirrors,
abusing or killing mirror-holders, is not going to help. It only makes us
an object of ridicule.
Lodhia Saheb, You are "simply dumbfounded" about my
"expressing concern" at Ghulam Ghouse Saheb being forced to reply to
a question on which he would want to remain silent. Lodhia Saheb, everything
has to be done within a limit. It's ok to ask questions, even to remind once or
twice, but if someone wants to maintain silence on some question, do not hound
him. Silence itself is a form of communication sometimes. Try to interpret it.
THE INFLUENCE OF WESTERN POLITICAL THINKING
A fast-growing number of families are
sending their children to America earlier to study (and moving with them) as
well. In 2013 about 32,000 Chinese received visas for study at secondary
schools in America, up from just 639 in 2005. The growth has occurred despite a
steep decline since 2010 in the number of Chinese aged between 18 and 22, from
121m to 89m this year.
Several converging trends explain
this. One is growing demand for education beyond the compulsory nine years. In
2011 nearly 25m Chinese were enrolled in senior secondary school (the level
feeding into universities), more than twice as many as in 2000. Helped by a
rapid increase in recent years in university places, the number of undergraduates
has soared. But the quality of instruction is poor at all but a handful of
universities, where a total of just a few thousand places are available each
year. As well as its Ivy League colleges, America has dozens of high-quality
private universities and large colleges funded by states, such as Georgia Tech,
which are world class.
Another trend is growing middle-class
wealth: many more Chinese families can now afford to send their children
abroad. They prefer a well-rated university overseas to a second-tier option at
home. Their choices are swayed by an educational system in China which many
regard as too rigid and ideologically stifling. The world has also become more
welcoming: visas to study have become easier for Chinese to obtain in many developed
countries, especially America.
American universities, keen to take on
fee-paying Chinese students, have helped this by lobbying the government to
issue more visas. They send teams to China’s best secondary schools to
encourage applicants. Some American campuses have set up courses to help
newcomers from China improve their English.
February 21, 2015
IT SHOULD BE MADE CLEAR TO THE
There are thousands of different interpretations of the
New Testament, yet these various versions of Christianity accept certain core
beliefs, including turning the other cheek rather than forcibly trying to
convert or kill those who do not believe. Not so with Islam. There are passages
in the Koran that speak of the need to kill the unbeliever. A majority of
Muslims, according to public opinion polls, reject those interpretations.
However, opinion polls in the major Muslim countries show that there are
substantial minorities that endorse at least some radical versions of Islam.
After reviewing many of these polls, Middle East analyst Joshua Muravchik
concluded that perhaps 20 percent of the world’s Muslims support terrorism
“often or sometimes,” which amounts to some 300 million people.
President Obama and other leaders frequently make the
statement that the Islamic State, or ISIS, and other Islamic terrorist
organizations are not Muslim. The facts do not bear them out. The Islamic State
and the others can and do point to specific passages in the Koran that support
their interpretation rather than those of the moderates. Most
non-Muslim-majority countries have increasingly protected the rights of
minority religions, while almost all majority Muslim countries have not. Few
Muslim majority countries even pretend to be democracies, and many argue that
their religion is incompatible with democracy. It should be made clear to the
moderate Muslims (those who are tolerant of others’ beliefs and practices) that
they are welcome in the United States and elsewhere, provided they do not seek
or expect special privileges (restrictions on others’ speech or dress, new
holidays or the imposition of Shariah law). That is, they should adapt to the
majority culture, not vice versa. The act of putting a Koran in the toilet
should not be considered a hate crime while doing the same with a Bible is
Richard W. Rahn
Pushing back against Islamist aggression
The Washington Times
CORRUPT INTERPRETATIONS OF THE QUR’AN
The rise of terrorism stemmed from “historical accumulations of
tendencies of extremism in our heritage, which originated from corrupt
interpretations of some of the texts of the Quran and the Sunnah,” he said,
referring to the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad.
Sheik Ahmed al-Tayeb
Grand Imam of Al-Azhar
Ahmed Al Omran &
Top Cleric Calls for Educational Reform in Muslim World – Link to the
February 23, 2015
Dear Dev Ji,
There is a
saying, “You learn something new every day.” For the sake of knowledge,
I must express my immense appreciation to you for pointing me towards the link to
the lecture of one fine gentleman named Rajiv Malhotra. I must honestly admit, it
was quite a refreshing experience.
Puksha,” is something my people have not yet learned.
They have remained inward looking and unable to assimilate into another
culture. Yes, it does take a lot of efforts to understand the other side. In
order to know about others, one must begin by “Reading,” and “Learning.”
The crux of the problem with the Muslims is that they have become
intellectually stagnant for not wanting to “Read” anything
that will help to enhance their knowledge about others.
“Spark of Divinity,” is instilled in each and every human that is
born. I do agree with Rajiv Malhotra that we are all originally divine. Little
wonder that every human finger print is different from one another.
“Celebrate Diversity,” is what Muslims must learn to do. That’s how
the Creator wanted it from the get go. Therefore, we humans
must embrace diversity and learn to live in peace and harmony with one another.
Thank you kindly,
Dev Ji, for sharing the knowledge. Muslims desperately need reformation of
their minds. Like “Rip Van Winkle,” they have been sleeping for
way too long now. The sooner they learn to practice “Purva Puksha,” the more enlightening their minds will
become. Now, the million dollar question is, “When will that day ever come?”
Your guess is as good as mine!
blessed day. Heads Up & Smile.
TOWARD A PATHWAY FOR POSITIVE, PROGRESSIVE HEALING
Muslim leaders have to realize that grievances expressed on the streets—like
the tragic murder of three Muslims in Chapel Hill, N.C., last week—become the
material of terrorism videos, and we have to lead our communities out of a
culture of “wound collecting,” and toward a pathway for positive, progressive
The alternative is more horrifying scenes like the video on the beach. But
spilled blood should inspire—not paralyze—us. Moderates must unite, to see
that “revenge” isn’t our answer and that end-time eschatology doesn’t become
something very dangerous: a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Asra Q. Nomani
It Take The End of the World For Obama To Recognize ISIS As 'Islamic'?
The Daily Beast
February 20, 2015
Good Morning Sultan Shahin Saheb,
Subject: Are we the readers not allowed to ask uncomfortable
Your polite comment to Asif Reyaz Saheb came as a surprise. Given that
you hardly object to, but instead encourage those commentators from insulting
Islam, I am simply dumbfounded about your expressing concern.
No doubt, uncomfortable questions will create irritations. In the
debate ring, one has to be able to answer questions and not go into hiding. You
should know by now how person like “Secular Logic,” who thrives in
provoking, but runs away from answering. You do not seem to object to those who
are hell-bent on creating ruckus, but on ther other hand, why would you be so overly
concerned about Asif Reyaz’s insistence on extracting honest answers from
Ghulam Ghaus Saheb?
No one is saying that Ghaus Sahab is not sincere. If he portrays
himself as a staunch believer in the “Authoritativeness of Hadiths,” then
he will be questioned by those who need clarifications about certain Qur’anic
verses. Why should it be so difficult for him to answer?
You are right in stating that, “He just believes in what you can call
popular Islam. He should not be hounded for these beliefs and made to defend
them, if he doesn't want to.” Yet, as concerned Muslims, we also have a right
to ask a Muslim holding a degree in the “Science of Hadiths,” to answer any
questions with clarity and honesty. No one is hounding Ghaus Saheb.
By consistently answering in a vague manner can only be characterized
as deceptive. Surely, Ghaus Saheb can avoid creating such an impression in the
minds of the readers. After all, this is your forum, and you wholeheartedly
invite everyone to contribute in the commentary column. Hence, if you welcome
the Muslim bashers, then why would you object to commentators like Asif Saheb?
He expressed his high regards for Ghaus Saheb, however, it is quite apparent
from his reminder that he felt disappointed. I believe that’s a respectable way,
and has nothing whatsoever to do with what you termed it as “hounding.”
For now, I want to highlight your own remark, “The fact that Ghouse
Saheb realises the importance of context clearly means that he doesn't really
consider Quran uncreated, God-like, though, of course, he doesn't know or
acknowledge it yet.” With this being said, “Why is there so much emphasis on
one single word, uncreated?” Can you be kind to enlighten your readers?
Thanks & Regards,
Reyaz Saheb, we should not be hounding any commentator
into irritation and rage. Let them be. Ask them questions, clarifications,
for sure, remind them politely maybe once or twice, if need be and if you
are very keen on a reply, but finally leave it to their discretion to respond
Saheb does a very good job of refutation of Jihadi literature. In many cases
this amounts to pointing out the contexts in which those verses were revealed
or those ahadees may have been fabricated or actually something like that said by the Prophet (saw), and the moment you do that you are
saying, certainly implying that contextual verses or ahadees were meant for
those times and are not applicable today. But not everyone may have the
intellectual clarity to realise that and say that in so many words.
This doesn't mean this person is not honest or is a hypocrite.
Try to see
how change comes in ideological positions without being acknowledged. Let me
give you an example. Indian Jamaat-e-Islami joined or maybe perhaps actually
founded along with journalist Kuldip Nayyar a group called Forum for Secularism
and Democracy or something like that during Emergency in 1975-76, if my memory
serves me right. Today, it patronises a political party. Obviously, they are
now light years away from Maulana Maududi's thoughts on certain vital beliefs,
but they continue to print and sell his books and make money. The same has happened with nearly
all communist parties, except those hardliners who now call themselves Maoist. So
change often comes without being acknowledged.
The fact that Ghouse Saheb
realises the importance of context clearly means that he doesn't really
consider Quran uncreated, God-like, though, of course, he doesn't know or
acknowledge it yet. In any case, as I have said before, the debate about
createdness or uncreatedness is not important. If someone simply says that such
and such instructions in Quran are no longer applicable to Muslims in today's
context, as they were revealed in an entirely different context, that is good
enough for me. This is not the Jihadi or ahl-e-Hadeesi position.
Asif Saheb, I do not know much about the extent of
your knowledge, but I wonder if you know what an ahl-e-hadeesi is. Ghouse Saheb
is certainly not one. Belief in Hadees doesn't make one an ahle Hadeesi. He
comes from a Sufi background. His beliefs are not exceptional. He just believes
in what you can call popular Islam. He should not be hounded for these beliefs
and made to defend them, if he doesn't want to.
Ghulam Ghaus Saheb, I am glad you finally mustered the courage to call Sultan Shahin's ideas rotten. Every ahl-e-Hadithi will agree with this. But unlike other ahl-e-Hadithis you are also promoting peace. How come?
Merely calling these ideas rotten doesn't help. By calling them rotten, you are saying that all verses of Quran including the sword verses and intolerant verses are applicable to us today, so we should be constantly fighting others including non-ahl-e-hadithis, as Jihadis are; all ahadith in Bukhari etc are authentic and authoritative, which means we should follow them in their letter and spirit and go to war with others, and consider terrorism justified as according to an authentic Bukhari Hadith the Prophet (peace be upon him) did; and that Sharia is divine, so we should seek its application in our societies, as Jihadis everywhere are doing. Where do, then, your refutations of Jihadi literature, your contextualisations of Quranic verses, your quest for peace,fit into this narrative.
Why do you stop at believing in Quran as God, ahadith as authentic and authoritative, Sharia as divine and not follow their dictates? Would you say "Khlafia" Abu Bakr Baghdadi is right in punishing this kind of hypocrisy?
Mr. Shahin, I have read your Jan 15 article,
'Muslims must confront...' and noted from the comments the uphill task you
face in putting your view across.
In Islam, the practice of takfir,
or excommunication, is theologically perilous. “If a man says to his brother,
‘You are an infidel,’ ” the Prophet said, “then one of
them is right.” If the accuser is wrong, he himself has committed apostasy by
making a false accusation. The punishment for apostasy is death. And yet
Zarqawi heedlessly expanded the range of behavior that could make Muslims
Maqdisi wrote to his former pupil
that he needed to exercise caution and “not issue sweeping proclamations
of takfir” or “proclaim people to be apostates because of their
sins.” The distinction between apostate and sinner may appear subtle, but it is
a key point of contention between al-Qaeda and the Islamic State.
Denying the holiness of the
Koran or the prophecies of Muhammad is straightforward apostasy. But Zarqawi
and the state he spawned take the position that many other acts can remove a
Muslim from Islam. These include, in certain cases, selling alcohol or drugs,
wearing Western clothes or shaving one’s beard, voting in an election—even for
a Muslim candidate—and being lax about calling other people apostates. Being a
Shiite, as most Iraqi Arabs are, meets the standard as well, because the
Islamic State regards Shiism as innovation, and to innovate on the Koran is to
deny its initial perfection. (The Islamic State claims that common Shiite
practices, such as worship at the graves of imams and public self-flagellation,
have no basis in the Koran or in the example of the Prophet.) That means
roughly 200 million Shia are marked for death. So too are the heads of state of
every Muslim country, who have elevated man-made law above Sharia by running
for office or enforcing laws not made by God.
Following takfiri doctrine,
the Islamic State is committed to purifying the world by killing vast numbers
of people. The lack of objective reporting from its territory makes the true
extent of the slaughter unknowable, but social-media posts from the region
suggest that individual executions happen more or less continually, and mass
executions every few weeks. Muslim “apostates” are the most common victims.
Exempted from automatic execution, it appears, are Christians who do not resist
their new government. Baghdadi permits them to live, as long as they pay a
special tax, known as the jizya, and acknowledge their subjugation.
The Koranic authority for this practice is not in dispute.
Mr. Asif Reyaz,
I have already answered you and Mr. Rafiq Lodhia on
authoritativeness of Hadith under the thread of my article:
Values among Religions and the Call for Interfaith Dialogue
Please go through the given link of the article and
comment under the thread of the same article.
Sorry for being late to answer you. I was busy in other pieces of work. Please keep it in your mind that my
disappearance does not mean that I have no answer for you. If it was your
illusion, please keep it away now and do not think so.
Good Morning Asif
Guess what! I
have been called “Bulldog,” and “Rainmaker,” by quite a number of friends. Wow!
Stalker,” is something new.
Ghulam Ghaus Saheb’s disappearance is not surprising at all. I recently posted “Ten
Quranic Surahs,” on the blog: www.readingisliving.com. Knowing
that you are an avid reader, therefore, after reading the verses, you need to remind
Maulana Ghaus Saheb to translate its meaning with the help of “Science of
forgot to mention the good name of respected Ghulam Rasool Dehlvi Saheb. It is
obvious that this pious Muslim is also having a difficult time answering a
simple question. Isn’t it amazing?
In any case,
I will wait patiently. You should know by now that answering honestly is not an
easy task. If Muslims proudly claim to believe in the Holy Quran as a divine
revelation, then one ought to ask, “Why the double standard and/or hypocrisy,
is applied towards one’s own divine book?” I am afraid, the answer to the “Authoritativeness
of Quran,” will hardly be given by them. Even if there
be a sincere attempt, then I will not be surprised that it will be more or less
vague as always. .
Sultan Shahin Saheb,
“Patriots Forum,” posted the same article titled, “Islamic
Reformation,” by R. Upadhay.
wrote, “An advisory notes of Sultan Shahin have the potential to challenge
Islamic terrorists.” Interestingly, “Tabligh Jamaat,” is also mentioned in the article.
Now then, are
you going to get into the debate ring or are you going to continue to let couple
of commentators to rule and disrupt your forum?
We are all
ears, Sultan Shahin Saheb.
IN THE HEARTS AND TWEETS OF MUSLIM WOMEN
No wonder more Muslim women are taking to social media, the streets,
or spiritual jihad. Even as bombs rain down on Islamic State, the real battle
may lie in the hearts and tweets of Muslim women in Turkey and elsewhere.
The Monitor’s View
Turkey's protests by women: jihad of a different sort – Link to the Article
The Christian Science Monitor
February 18, 2015
A HIGH VOLTAGE CAMPAIGN
“The recent Islamist terrorist attacks on the Charlie Hebdo cartoon
journalists in Paris and army children in Peshawar school perhaps prompted
Sultan Shahin , Indian Editor of New Age Islam to write an advisory paper
entitled “Muslim must confront Islamist terror ideologically –An Islamic
reformation required”. While it is conceded that reforms within Islam will have
to come from within, this paper examines whether at all it is possible when
indications are to the contrary!
Another author Muhammad Yunus in the Urdu section of the same web site
maintained that “Hadith Is Not a Divine Scripture of Islam”.
Similarly, on Jauary 23 a group of Muslim intellectuals led by Anjum
Zaidi protested at India Islamic Cultural Centre against inviting Zakir Naik, a
“terror sympathiser” and owner of a controversial TV channel Peace. Zaidi also
lodged a complaint in police for arresting Zakir Naik under terror Act (Pioneer
dated January 24).
Egypt’s president opened the New Year with a dramatic call for a
“revolution” in Islam to reform interpretations of the faith entrenched for
hundreds of years, which he said have made the Muslim world a source of
“destruction” and pitted it against the rest of the world.”
“In view of the scientific revolutions that have produced new ideas
and thoughts, the professed goal of the above writers who want to bring radical
reform in Islam may be to purge the Islamic texts of extremist ideas of
intolerance and violence that fuel various Islamist terror groups and motivate
them for launching war to create Islamic state. But how far they would be able
to stop the long march of the Islamic movements which are propagating the
extremist ideology of the seventh century faith is a million dollar question.
Since the endeavour of the above rational thinkers is contrary to the Islamic
teachings which are being propagated by various institutions, its acceptance in
Muslim society may be a difficult task.
The modern world may believe in societal laws which are rational,
realistic and in accordance with the contemporary reality. But despite the fact
that Sharia (Islamc law) and fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence) are not divine
revelations like Quran, the terrorists as well as Muslim orthodoxy misinterpret
them as Allah’s law and therefore they are not ready for any reform in these
Islamic texts. Apart from it, numerous wars were fought on interpretation of
Islamist theory in Arab world and as a result the Ulema following the different
schools of Islam are also divided on this issue.
The problem as I see it is that the younger generation of the Muslims
has developed a mindset that there is a lot of injustice to their community
locally and internationally. Result- they get sadistic pleasure in the
destructive and supremacist view of the terror groups that are armed with the
ideological motto -“The prophet is our leader, Quran is our constitution, jihad
is our way and death in the service of Allah is the loftiest of our wishes”.
Interpreting Quran as a tool to justify the oppressive and violent Jihad, the
Islamist terrorists will never be ready for any saner debate as they are
rigidly following the Quranic concept of war
It requires a high voltage campaign to clarify that except Quran,
other religious scriptures are manmade and that can be moderated according to
the contemporary and realistic requirements of the time. The intellectual
initiatives taken by the rationalist Muslims are therefore a welcome step and
if the ‘moderate’ section in the community could stir the Ummah against the
Islamist terror ideologically, they would not only save the Islamic community
from the slur they are facing due to terror violence but would also serve the
Islamic Reformation- with special reference to India – Link to
Sri Lanka Guardian
INCUBATORS OF VIOLENT EXTREMISM
“The actual problem is what’s taught in the
madrassa, because that curriculum breeds hatred, violence and legitimizes
violence against non-Muslims.”
Imtiaz Gul - Executive
Centre for Research and Security Studies
Kamran Haider & Khurrum Anis
Cutting Off Terrorism at Its Roots – Link to the Article
A FOUNTAIN OF HATE
Doha’s Grand Mosque has long been a stopover for militants from across
the region heading to wage jihad in the Levant. And despite the emirate’s membership
in the coalition against ISIS, and while U.S. warplanes launch their bombing
raids on the militants in Syria and Iraq from the American airbase in Qatar,
the landmark mosque has remained a top venue to hear radical Islamic
An American Ally’s Grand Mosque of Hate – Link to the Article
INDIA POSSESSES UNTOLD PROMISE
If India is to thrive, it needs bold reforms and political courage to
match. The tried-and-tested development strategy is to move people from
penurious farm jobs to more productive work with better pay. China’s rise was
built on export-led manufacturing. The scope to follow that model is limited.
Supply-chain trade growth has slowed, and manufacturing is becoming less
labour-intensive as a result of technology. Yet India could manage better than
it does now. It has a world-class IT-services industry, which remains too
skill-intensive and too small to absorb the 90m-115m often ill-educated
youngsters entering the job market in the next decade. The country’s best hope
is a mixed approach, expanding its participation in global markets in both
industry and services.
A CHANCE TO FLY – Link to the Article
If India is to thrive, it needs bold
reforms and political courage to match. The
tried-and-tested development strategy
is to move people from penurious farm
jobs to more productive work with
better pay. China’s rise was built on export-led
manufacturing. The scope to follow that
model is limited. Supply-chain trade growth
has slowed, and manufacturing is
becoming less labour-intensive as a result of
technology. Yet India could manage
better than it does now. It has a world-class
IT-services industry, which remains too
skill-intensive and too small to absorb the
90m-115m often ill-educated youngsters
entering the job market in the next decade.
The country’s best hope is a mixed
approach, expanding its participation in global markets in both industry and services.
AFGHANISTAN’S NEW FIRST LADY – RULA GHANI
She dared Afghan students who have studied abroad on scholarship to
pay their dues by coming home to help the country rebuild.
She dared foreign aid agencies to stop creating a culture of
dependency, and instead focus on teaching Afghans how to build their own society.
She dared the Western press to stop portraying Afghanistan as a
Afghanistan's first lady dares the world to view her country
February 19, 2015
FOR POLITICAL AND STRATEGIC REASONS
President Obama stands accused of political correctness for his
unwillingness to accuse groups such as the Islamic State of “Islamic
extremism,” choosing a more generic term, “violent extremism.” His critics say
that you cannot fight an enemy you will not name. Even his supporters feel that
his approach is too “professorial.”
But far from being a scholar concerned with describing the phenomenon
accurately, the president is deliberately choosing not to emphasize the Islamic
State’s religious dimension for political and strategic reasons. After all,
what would be the practical consequence of describing the group, also known as
ISIS, as Islamic? Would the West drop more bombs on it? Send in more soldiers
to fight it? No, but it would make many Muslims feel that their religion had
been unfairly maligned. And it would dishearten Muslim leaders who have continually
denounced the Islamic State as a group that does not represent Islam.
The limits of the ‘Islamic’ label – Link to the Article
February 19, 2015
My Dear Ritesh Ji,
Thank you kindly for your reply. I am honored to be in your good
books. It sure feels very refreshing after getting bruised by a handful of
commentators on this forum.
For long, I have held this view about “Muslim leaders
need to do more.” My only regret is
that American Muslim leaders and many prominent Muslims living in America have simply
Spirit of Collaboration.”
Sultan Shahin Saheb has remained relentless in his mission to promote
the much needed “Awareness,” among the Muslims. I am afraid, he also
tend to take “Politically
Correct,” stand every once in a while.
Surely, Sultan Saheb and his dedicated staff will get around to post the entire
speech of President Barack Obama. One thing we must all agree upon is that he
does his very best to post all the relevant articles on his website.
Have a cheerful and blessed day. Ritesh Ji. Heads Up & Smile.
Kind personal regards,
Dear Asif Saheb,
Good to read your feedback. It is much appreciated. Kindly allow me to
request you not to divide the Muslims into two categories, that is, ahl-Quran
You are absolutely right in stating that “Dawah,” is the most important
work for a Muslim. Keep in mind that in the digital age, “Dawah,” work
can be conducted in many ways. One does not have to sport a beard and roam
around the world leaving behind the family. Spreading “Good Words,” is the only “Dawah,”
that I know of. Simply put, we the Muslims, must first learn to become an
As for Ghulam Ghaus, he should not fear answering a simple question
about the “Authoritativeness
of Quran.” I remain baffled as his poor excuse.
Thanks again for the moral support. Have a blessed day.
Very respectfully yours,
Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia
To: Respected Muslim Readers @ New Age Islam
With endless recycling over the same old subject matter on “New Age Islam” forum, I have painstakingly created another one of my blogs as follows: http://www.readingisliving.com
It is truly very sad that Muslims belonging to the Islamic Civilization have collectively betrayed its own sacred text. In other words, we have deliberately neglected to reflect and ponder over the meaning of the Qur’anic verses.
Every single day in the news channel around the world, it is only one single word that has dominated all the headline news. The religion of Islam is being questioned, and the majority of Muslims are missing in action.
Knowing that there will hardly be any “Readers,” nonetheless, I have managed to post at least nine sections in the blog. It is as follows:
The Heights Of The Qur’anic Thought
A Simple Thought In Its Plain Simplicity
The Simplicity Of The Quranic Manner
The Disposition Of The First Generation Of Muslims
The Qur’an Is So Simple To Understand
The Real Meaning Of The Qur’an
The Qur’an Was Lost In A Maze Of Far-Fetched Conceits
The Beauty And Attraction Of The Qur’anic Method of Argument
The Plain Meaning Of The Plain Word Of The Quran
All in all, the nine short paragraphs are excerpts from the book titled “The Tarjuman al-Qur’an” by Maulana Abul Kalam Azad (May Almighty Allah rest his soul in peace). Happy Reading, my fellow Muslims. Of course, all of my fellow humans are equally welcome to read them as well. Why not? We are all “One Family Of Humanity,” to which Holy Qur’an carefully refers to as “O Mankind.”
Very compassionately yours,
THERE IS NO DEBATE ABOUT THE
The roots of
terrorist acts, even those committed by those from faiths other than Islam,
have long been difficult to pin down. Rather than give them substance, the better
course remains in shining light on their darkness. If there is a struggle, it may
be in choosing the best light. But there is no debate about the darkness.
A beaming White House summit
on 'extremism' – Link to the
The Christian Science Monitor
February 17, 2015
IS NO DEBATE ABOUT THE DARKNESS
The roots of terrorist acts, even those committed by those from faiths
Islam, have long been difficult to pin down. Rather than give them
better course remains in shining light on their darkness. If there is a
may be in choosing the best light. But there is no debate about the
beaming White House summit on 'extremism' – Link to the Article
Christian Science Monitor
To Be Fair To Barack Obama Muslim Leaders
And Ulema Must Declare Isis, Al Qaida, Boko Haram As 'Kharijites' [Outlawed
From The Pale Of Islam] As Proposed In
The Following Articles:
for international Fatwas to declare the terrorists who advocate wanton killing
of innocent people in the name of Islam as ‘Terrorist Apostates’, like the
Kharijites of early Islam.
The ISIS As The Kharijites (Those Who Seceded From Islam) As This Article
Demonstrates And Declares: Global SOS To The Ulama, Muftis, Intellectuals And
Scholars Of Islam
MUSLIM LEADERS NEED TO DO MORE - EVERYBODY HAS TO SPEAK UP VERY CLEARLY
First, we have to confront squarely and honestly the twisted
ideologies that these terrorist groups use to incite people to violence.
Leading up to this summit, there’s been a fair amount of debate in the press
and among pundits about the words we use to describe and frame this
challenge. So I want to be very clear about how I see it.
Al Qaeda and ISIL and groups like it are desperate for
legitimacy. They try to portray themselves as religious leaders -- holy
warriors in defense of Islam. That’s why ISIL presumes to declare itself the
“Islamic State.” And they propagate the notion that America -- and the
West, generally -- is at war with Islam. That’s how they recruit.
That’s how they try to radicalize young people. We must never accept the
premise that they put forward, because it is a lie. Nor should we grant
these terrorists the religious legitimacy that they seek. They are not
religious leaders – they’re terrorists. And we are not at war with
Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam.
Now, just as those of us outside Muslim communities need to reject the
terrorist narrative that the West and Islam are in conflict, or modern life and
Islam are in conflict, I also believe that Muslim communities have a
responsibility as well. Al Qaeda and ISIL do draw, selectively, from the
Islamic texts. They do depend upon the misperception around the world
that they speak in some fashion for people of the Muslim faith, that Islam is
somehow inherently violent, that there is some sort of clash of civilizations.
Of course, the terrorists do not speak for over a billion Muslims who
reject their hateful ideology. They no more represent Islam than any
madman who kills innocents in the name of God represents Christianity or
Judaism or Buddhism or Hinduism. No religion is responsible for
terrorism. People are responsible for violence and terrorism.
And to their credit, there are respected Muslim clerics and scholars
not just here in the United States but around the world who push back on this
twisted interpretation of their faith. They want to make very clear what
Islam stands for. And we’re joined by some of these leaders today.
These religious leaders and scholars preach that Islam calls for peace and for
justice, and tolerance toward others; that terrorism is prohibited; that the
Koran says whoever kills an innocent, it is as if he has killed all
mankind. Those are the voices that represent over a billion people around
But if we are going to effectively isolate terrorists, if we're going
to address the challenge of their efforts to recruit our young people, if we're
going to lift up the voices of tolerance and pluralism within the Muslim
community, then we've got to acknowledge that their job is made harder by a
broader narrative that does exist in many Muslim communities around the world
that suggests the West is at odds with Islam in some fashion.
The reality -- which, again, many Muslim leaders have spoken to -- is
that there’s a strain of thought that doesn’t embrace ISIL’s tactics, doesn’t
embrace violence, but does buy into the notion that the Muslim world has
suffered historical grievances -- sometimes that's accurate -- does buy into
the belief that so many of the ills in the Middle East flow from a history of
colonialism or conspiracy; does buy into the idea that Islam is incompatible
with modernity or tolerance, or that it's been polluted by Western values.
So those beliefs exist. In some communities around the world
they are widespread. And so it makes individuals -- especially young people who
already may be disaffected or alienated -- more ripe for radicalization. And so we've got
to be able to talk honestly about those issues. We've got to be much more
clear about how we're rejecting certain ideas.
So just as leaders like myself reject the notion that terrorists like
ISIL genuinely represent Islam, Muslim leaders
need to do more to discredit the notion that our nations are
determined to suppress Islam, that there’s an inherent clash in
civilizations. Everybody has to speak up very
clearly that no matter what the grievance, violence against innocents doesn't
defend Islam or Muslims, it damages Islam and Muslims.
And when all of us, together, are doing our part to reject the
narratives of violent extremists, when all of us are doing our part to be very
clear about the fact that there are certain universal precepts and values that
need to be respected in this interconnected world, that’s the beginnings of a
President Barack Obama
Good Morning Ghulam Ghaus Saheb – Reminder No. 1
Subject: NO NEED TO BEAT AROUND THE BUSH
From your reply, I get a feeling that you have other work to attend
to. Carry on.
For your kind information, I am only interested in knowing about your
personal belief in “Authoritativeness of Quran.” The
main reason being that you are insisting upon getting your point across first.
That’s just not going to happen, till I get a better understanding as to where
do you stand on the subject matter, Quran. All I earnestly request you to give
me, is an honest answer to one single question, “Do you consider
Quran to be a divine book?”
I am sorry for not getting involved into what you termed it as “Science
of Discourse.” For more than 1,200 years, the so-called discourse has been
going on with no final consensus among the Islamic scholars over the falsely
fabricated Hadiths. That’s a downright shameful act. If you term such a major
indecision as the “Science of Discourse,” then shame on all the
Again, the only subject I wish to select for the time being is, “Authoritativeness
of Quran.” and nothing else. What is your scholarly
opinion? That’s as simple of a question which I can ask you as an ordinary
Muslim layman. If you are going to remain vague and cannot answer, then try to
be upfront about it. There is absolutely NO NEED TO BEAT AROUND THE BUSH.
Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia
Good Morning Sultan Saheb,
Subject: NO CENSORSHIP, PLEASE!
It is absolutely unfair to delete offensive comments made by “Ex-Tablighi.” It will nice for the readers to know as to how mentally sick the man is.
Many readers know very well that whenever “Ex-Tablighi,” make offensive and insulting comments against Islam, you seem to approve it under the banner of “Freedom of Speech.” That’s generous on your part, but why would you go an extra-mile to cover-up his sins?
I say, let the “New Age Islam,” readers learn more about “Ex-Tablighi’s” offensive comments against Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia. Don’t you think, it will be wise for the readers to make a final judgment of his character? Didn’t the man bluntly made a comment as follows:
The problem is with the Quran which feed terror into minds of people.
Let’s face one single fact that, “Ex-Tablighi,” is a Muslim. He hates Islam, but is having a real hard time giving up the religion in which he was born in. Yet, he takes utter delight in mocking the Prophet of Islam without any remorse.
I, therefore, earnestly request you to post every single word used against any commentator. I know that “Ex-Tablighi,” has issues with my comments. If you are worried that many of your readers will feel awkward to read about his offensive comments, then you need not be worried about it. Many are “Silent Spectators,” anyway. If you believe that Muslims can learn from his comments, then why do you even bother to delete his offensive comments? Let there be a free flow of speech. NO CENSORSHIP, PLEASE!
Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia
Dark Days Of Bigotry, Fanaticism And Bloodshed
Prime Minister Narendra Modi remarks must
be taken to heart by all peace-loving Indians, be they Hindus, Muslims or
Christians living in India
“The world is at a crossroads which, if not
crossed properly, can throw us back to the dark days of bigotry, fanaticism and
“Delhi has given the message that in India
there is no vote for beating up on anybody. People want peace.”
Modi Condemns Religious Violence in India
Whatever the case, Mr. Modi has now
positioned himself on the side of respect for religious differences. And he has
given hope to those who believed his campaign promises to build a modern India,
based on economic development, that will lift millions of people out of
poverty. Such an ambitious vision could never be realized if he allowed or
enabled India to devolve into religious turmoil.
Indian Prime Minister Modi Condemns
The New York Times
February 17, 2015
While debating the createdness, uncreatednes and other themes of the holy Qur’an, it would be also interesting to glance through
the views of the modernist Muslim scholars in India. For instance, Sayyid Ahmad
Khan, who was a rationalist with reformist ideas
in the tradition of Shah Wali Ullah,
“I hold for certain that God has created
us and sent us his guidance. This guidance corresponds fully to our natural constitution,
to our nature. ... It would be highly irrational to maintain that God’s work
[the natural world, including humankind] and God’s word [the revelation of the
Qur’an] are different and unrelated to one another. All beings, including man,
are God’s work and religion is His word; the two cannot be in conflict. ... So
I formulated that “Islam is nature and nature is Islam.” (Quoted in Troll,
All Muslim Readers @ New Age Islam
AB TUM KHUD HI FAISLA KAR LO.
just as predicted the man who calls himself “Secular Logic,” once again
proved that he is nothing but a downright “Buzdil.”
to worry. Watch out, he will be back in the debate ring with another mentally deranged “Ex-Tablighi,” and not to mention,
with his usual “Holier
Than Thou,” attitude against the Muslims.
course, one would expect an “Intellectual
Bigot,” to behave as such. He is totally incapable to
contribute on the subject matter that relates to his own religion. Why should
he ever get involved? Sure, he does not want to be insulted, but he has no
issue whatsoever to insult other religion.
any case, the man consistently shows his spectacular immoral character. It is
truly disappointing to realize that the “Perverted Logic,” is always
applied. Instead of answering the impurity and pollution of the “Ganges River,” he simply diverts the subject matter to yet
another provocative subject in order to inflame the hatred. What else is new?
this bigot should listen to the song of Mohammed Rafi Saheb (May Almighty Allah
rest his soul in peace) as follows:
Madrasi, Mai Gujarati, Mai Ek Rajasthani
Purana Ek Marathi, Naya Naya Haryani
Kuchh Bhi Hu, Mai Kuchh Bhi Hu
Sab Se Pehle Hindustani, Hindustani
Meri Ma Ka Naam, Baap Ka Naam Himala
Khud Hi Faisla Kar Lo, Mai Kis Sube Wala
right, my fellow Muslims. AB
TUM KHUD HI FAISLA KAR LO.
PREDILECTION FOR TERROR
problem is: Iran really loves terrorism. Since 1979, it has used terrorism
as a tool of statecraft like no other nation. In his testimony Thursday before
the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Nick Rasmussen, the head of the
National Counterterrorism Center, said Iran and Hezbollah "remain
committed to conducting terrorist activities worldwide and we are concerned
their activities could either endanger or target U.S. and other Western
leaders have been implicated in terrorist attacks in South America, Europe and
the Middle East. The Justice Department in 2011 accused Iran of attempting to kill Saudi
Arabia's ambassador to Washington at a popular Georgetown restaurant, Cafe
Milano. For the Islamic Republic to give up its predilection for terror
would require a cultural revolution inside its defense establishment. What
would the Quds Force be without car bombers and kidnapping?
might argue that the 2013 election of President Hassan Rouhani, a supposed
reformer, signifies just this kind of change. But there is little evidence he
is opening up Iranian society. State executions of gays and arrests of
dissidents continue. Even though Rouhani tweeted in 2013 a Jewish New Year
message to his followers on Twitter, the regime remains steeped in ugly
anti-Semitism. In response to the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris last month, a
cultural center in Iran with close ties to the regime announced a Holocaust
cartoon contest. Despite Rouhani's campaign promises, the leaders of the
country's green movement, the people who took to the streets to protest
the 2009 elections, remain under house arrest or brutal detention in the
country's prisons. If Iran is unwilling to stop terrorizing its own people, why
should anyone think it will stop terrorizing the citizens of its historic
Iran's Peace Letter from a
Poison Pen – Link to the Article
February 16, 2015
Dear Sultan Saheb, I tracked down some information on the web:
Rather bleak, all the countries which punish apostasy seem to be Islamic.
Even Algeria, which I thought was the one Islamic country that was not hostile
to other religions, punishes apostasy:
Algerian law does not include a criminal offense of apostasy. Offenses
related to religion include article 144 bis(2) of the Penal Code, which
provides that any individual who insults the prophet and the messengers of God,
or denigrates the creed or prophets of Islam through writing, drawing,
declaration, or any other means, will receive three to five years in prison,
and/or be subject to a fine of between 50,000 and 100,000 Algerian dinars
(approximately US$631 to $1263). In addition, although Algeria permits
religious organizations to participate in humanitarian works, it makes
proselytizing by non-Muslims an offense punishable by a fine and up to five
Indonesia - In addition to the blasphemy laws, Indonesia also has in
place a targeted ban on proselytizing.
In 2008, the government issued a ministerial decree specifically banning
the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community from proselytizing.
Saudi Arabia of course is a champion!
Islamic Sharia’a is the law of the land in Saudi Arabia. The country has no penal code. One of the main sources of Islamic law is the
hadith or ascribed sayings of the Prophet Mohamed. Islamic law imposes the death penalty on
apostates based on the following statements attributed to the Prophet Mohamed
in some hadith collections:
(1) “If somebody (a Muslim) discards
his religion, kill him[,]” and (2)
“The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be
worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three
cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual
intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam and leaves the Muslims.”
It appears that apostasy is understood to be more than mere conversion
and the law against it is actively enforced.
For instance, in 2012 Saudi authorities charged Hamza Kashgari, a Saudi
writer, with apostasy based on comments he made on Twitter expressing his
personal religious views. Although he initially fled the country, he was
detained in Malaysia and extradited to Saudi Arabia where, after having
repented, he was placed in protective custody. In another incident, Saudi
authorities detained two men and charged them with apostasy for adopting the
Ahmadiyya interpretation of Islam.
I can think of many Christian countries where a Buddhist can happily
live, practice and preach, but there does not seem to be even one single
Islamic country for a person of a different faith (except perhaps Malayasia?).
I do not know whom you refer to as a 'moderate muslim', but certainly an
extended awakening is required!
Dear Sultan Sahib, I have been reading some of your missives, and I have a question: can you please tell me one country with a majority of people followers of Islamwhich allows people to preach and follow Buddhism, say, (as I am a Buddhist). Is it possible for a Buddhist to convert a Muslim to Buddhism, in a Muslim majority country? I know this is not possible in any of the mid-east countries or Afghanistan or Pakistan, but in Algeria, Malayasia or Indonesia? In contrast, Christian majority countries such as the US, Canada, Brazil, Western Europe, even Russia, allow Buddhists to practice, preach and convert. Best wishes
- "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The
Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate
the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are
- "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to
go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the
life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as
compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a
grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to
those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.
Muslim Readers @ New Age Islam
finally showed his true color, just like his comrade, “Secular Logic.”
One thing for
sure, the crank has now proven that he is nothing but “A Certified Islam Hater.” Any
comment that points out to the good moral conduct of Muslims, such bigots will
be at forefront to discard it. Imagine, how these loons think about Muslims!
What amazes me is that, they continuously remain under the impression that we all are stupid and do not know how to
this, let’s look out for a comment from “Secular Logic.” Perhaps, he might well decide
to be missing in action. For long, the man has been lecturing Muslims. Now let’s
see how he proposes to clean up the “Ganges River.”
It could well be that he will come out swinging with his same old mantra, “I don’t
believe in any religion.” If that be the case, then the readers should
ask, Sultan Shahin Saheb, “What on earth is he doing on New Age Islam forum?” Well,
unless Sultan Saheb himself takes delight in allowing all the insulting remarks
against Islam by a handful of bigots. One can only learn something from the
other person, if he/she is brave enough to look at his own people’s fault too.
the reverse rule is applied. Sultan Saheb wholeheartedly believes that, we the Moderate Muslims,”
can learn plenty from such critics of Islam. That’s fine and dandy. We heard it
all. Now let’s see if “Secular Logic,” will have something worthwhile to
add about the holy river that has long been neglected by the Hindus.
For sure, “Joy of Provocation,” drives
him to this particular forum. It seems like the man has nothing better to do in
life than to insult Islam and Holy Quran. Let’s wait and see his reaction.
Shahin, Editor @ New Age islam
Subject: HUM KISISE KUM
First of all,
I would like to draw your kind attention to your own message as follows:
you seem to have seen too many boxing bouts of your hero Mohammad Ali? New Age
Islam is not a boxing ring, Sir. And we are not associated with your "Clint
Eastwood Club" either. We are not in the business of disarming Taliban
either as Naseer Saheb Observer wanted us to do. We are merely trying to
present a positive view of Islam and refute the claims of Jihadis within our
very limited means.”
Shahin - 2/8/2015 2:53:12 PM
loud and clear about your mission in the following words, “We are trying to present
a positive view of Islam.” Surely, this very sentence should also include
Indian Muslims too.
Well, if this
be the case, then you should invite, “Secular Logic,” to “Come on Down,” to share his respective thoughts
about one dentist from Moradabad, India named Mairaj Uddin, who has become a “Ram Ganga Mitra.” Given
that you dislike boxing matches, but after all, you cannot ignore the fact that
you are operating “A Debate Forum.” Every boxing and singing contest has
winners and losers. That’s just part of life. Hence, instead of carrying on with
the usual defeatist attitude, you should encourage Muslims’ point of view, and
not get carried away with others who thrash Islam, and are Muslim haters.
Do you recall
not stepping in when an outrageous comment was posted by none other than “Secular
Logic”? It is as follows:
Fatiha is beautiful in what way? If believers are described by Islam as those
who believe in Allah and only Allah, who follow the dos and don’t's laid down
by him and who consider Mohammad to be God's prophet (and the last one at
that), and disbelievers are described as those people who do not confirm to
these descriptors, the verse is indeed a war cry against all other faiths.”
Now, let us
find out from “Secular Logic,” who intentionally made such a statement
to read an article titled, “The Ganges: Holy, Deadly River.” The
man is so obsessed with the “Joy of Provocation,” that he seems to have not
looked into his own backyard lately. Perhaps, the moral act of Mairaj Uddin,
will likely to serve as a big wake-up call for the man who has openly expressed
his doubts about the very first chapter of Holy Quran.
which I like to point out to you is that, there are certain known “Intellectual
Bigots,” who are too busy spewing hatred against Islam and
Muslims on the cyberspace. One such well known person is, “Satya Narayana
Dosapati.” I am sure he has many silent admirers, but sadly, they all
pretend to be innocent. For such kind of people, everything wrong that goes around
in the world is mainly due to the religion of Islam and nothing else.
the height of ignorance, there you go. May be, another YouTube video might help
to open Satya’s own naked eyes as well. His intense hatred for Islam is all too
readable in his hate-filled messages which he joyfully circulates to everyone. These self-serving bigots never fail to give
dictation to Muslims to behave, but they dare not look into the misdeeds which
takes place in their own society. Little wonder that the late great Raj Kapoor
named his last film appropriately: Ram Teri Ganga Maili.
you can play the role of Gandhi as long as you want, but never ever forget that
the winners in life are those who possess what is called “A Fighting Spirit.” No,
it does not have to be a bloody one at all. It can be a non-violent one,
provided the response is bold and courageous enough, to enable the Muslims to
feel proud and proclaim to their fellow humans: HUM KISiSE KUM NAHEEN.
Hai Agar Dushman
Zamana Gum Nahin,
Koi Aaye, Koi
Aaye, Koi Aaye, Koi
Hum Kisise Kum
Nahin, Kum Nahin
GUESS! WHO HAS BECOME A RAM GANGA MITRA (CRUSADER?
“When I was young this river was very clean and we could even see the
riverbed,” says Mairaj Uddin, a Moradabad dentist who has become a Ram Ganga
Mitra (crusader), one of a group of anti-pollution volunteers formed by
WWF-India. As he speaks, someone hurls a plastic bag of rubbish from the walls
of the nearby Ganga Mandir, a Hindu temple, straight into the river. “Now it’s
dead. All the sewage from the city comes into the river. But things should
change once the sewer line is laid . . . And I really hope that I’m going to
help make this river go back to its original state. Maybe I’ll be too old to
bathe in it. But I want my children to bathe in it.”
The Ganges: holy, deadly
The Financial Times
February 13, 2015
THE DEMONIZATION OF ISLAM AND MUSLIMS
Omid Safi, director of Duke University’s Islamic Studies
Center, compared the murders to the killing of Emmett Till, a crime that
galvanized the African-American civil rights
movement in the 1950s.
“In some ways, this vile and heinous crime is the strange
fruit of 15 years of the demonization of Islam and Muslims from the most public
airwaves in this country,” Safi wrote. “It’s a vicious combination: repeated
dehumanization of Muslims and association of Islam with the worst of violence
on one hand, and the sad reality of America being a nation with 300 million
guns for 300 million people.”
After Criticisms, Obama Speaks Out on Killings of Muslims in
To: Sultan Shahin, Editor @ New Age Islam
Dear Sultan Saheb,
Subject: BE PRAGMATIC
First of all, it will be appropriate to set aside the word “wise,”
as it has more to do with “wisdom.” For the time being, my earnest
advice is to BE
Two of the recent articles extracted from the “Christian Science Monitor,” posted
should give you and all the readers, the clue of what has drastically went
wrong in the Islamic world. On my Facebook page, I tend to pick the subject
title from the core message of the articles. For instance:
outcome is going to be determined in the classrooms.
You being a practical Muslim should have no problem in agreeing with
such a statement made by U.S. Secretary of State, John Kerry. The classrooms of
Islamic Madrassas and Tablighi houses are where the problem arises. They shun
the modern education, resulting in young Muslims having real difficult time to
cope up in the 21st century.
out of touch with the people’s models of thought.
No doubt, the old mental mode continues to plague the Muslims mind.
Your forum has no problem in allowing the vehement critics of Islam to have
their field day, but as an “Editor,” you ought to do your level best to
highlight the encouraging news coming out of the Arab world, such as the one
More importantly, it will be splendid if you can inspire the young
Muslim readers to participate in the debate. You know all too well that the
older generation of Muslims are expressing their thoughts and participating in
the debates. You claim to have more than half-a-million or so readers. If that
be the case, then where are the young Muslims?
If you recollect, last year I was the one, who strongly recommended
you to set the rules for those who comment; to reveal, “Name & Town, if you wish to opine.” Granted
that you have your own good reasons not to divulge the names, nonetheless, you
should be aware by now that the unknown and mysterious commentators will continue
to disrupt any productive debates out of their hatred towards Muslims. You have
seen it happen over and over again, but you remain adamant that so much can be
learned from the haters. May be so, but you miserably fail to see the reverse
impact of such a policy.
between a person’s thinking and action.
Who will dare confront the harsh and bitter reality? Here again, the most
pragmatic question asked by Abdennour Bidar in his article titled, “Dear Muslim
World,” was, “How can a civilization so betray its own sacred
text?” Let’s face it, Sultan Saheb. We the Muslims, from all walks of life,
simply ignored one of the most important Quranic commandments as follows:
“Let there arise out of you a
band of people inviting to all that is good; enjoining what is right and
forbidding what is wrong; they are the ones to attain blissfulness,"
Surah: Al-‘Imran (The
Family of ‘Imran) – Chapter: 3 - Verse: 104 - 105
Well then, under the banner of “Freedom of Speech,” if you
allow the band of fools, morons, hecklers and bigots to dominate the debates,
then you will never ever be able to set the mapping agenda for the 21st
century for the Muslims. We all need to move beyond the negativity and promote
more positive and healthy debates that relate more to the modern world. We
should not be continuously confined to the 7th century, as certain commentators
are hell-bent in doing all day long. Self-inflicted mindset known as “Victimhood,” is
the direct consequences of allowing all the negativity to dictate the
discourse, period. Always remember, reformation can only commence with positive
mindset, Sultan Shahin Saheb.
Thanks again for understanding, I remain
Very truly yours,
Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia
TO BE OUT OF TOUCH WITH
THE PEOPLE’S MODELS OF THOUGHT
mental model of Arab countries as incapable of pluralistic and tolerant
self-governance, or too divided over the role of religion, must come to an end.
Like the World Bank staff, many current Arab leaders seem to be out of touch
with the people’s models of thought.
The very model of a
modern Arab democracy
February 5, 2015
THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO
BE DETERMINED IN CLASSROOMS
estimated 5 percent of Saudis sympathize with the goals of IS. But that is
enough to keep a flow of fighters to the group. Drying up the flow requires
that Arab leaders and others provide a stronger – and nonviolent – purpose to
February 4, 2015
this fight is not going to be decided on the battlefield. The outcome is going
to be determined in classrooms, workplaces, houses of worship, community
centers, urban street corners, in the perceptions and the thoughts of
individuals, and the ways in which those perceptions are created.”
United States Secretary
of State – John Kerry
BLESSED ARE THE HONEST JOURNALISTS
I am a humble American Muslim with an immense appreciation for my
fellow Americans who are journalists, engaged in covering the Middle East
region and highlighting the on-going struggle for the human rights of
To express my deepest sorrow for Bob Simon (73), a brave American
journalist, who recently died in a car crash,
I dedicate a quote of John Donne, an English poet and a cleric in the Church of
English, which I believe reflects his service to mankind. It is as follows:
“All mankind is of one Author, and is one volume; when one Man dies,
one chapter is not torn of the book, but translated into a better language; and
every chapter must be so translated; God employs several translators; some
pieces are translated by age, some by sickness, some by war, some by justice;
but God’s hand is in every translation; and His hand shall bind up all our
scattered leaves again, for that Library where every book shall lie open to one
Bob Simon once remarked, “your language is pretty much that of a
martyr.” Yes indeed. It was Almighty God who employed him to cover the war
zone as a journalist. More importantly, He bestowed upon him the wisdom to give
an honest report to all of his fellow men and women around the world.
We, the American Muslims, will miss him on “60 Minutes.” Bob at one time said that, “I
like to be remembered for irony.” The irony of fate is that he died as a martyr,
who served mankind with honesty and truthfulness.
May the good Lord be with him in his heavenly home. Rest in peace, Bob
February 12, 2015
THE “NEW AGE ISLAM” FORUM
– CROWN JEWEL
That is why I
always refer to you with your name which you have not abandoned yet: Mohd Yunus
and add rational as your takhallus, also to avoid
confusion with Muhammad Yunus Saheb. Why not you too call yourself Mohd Yunus
Rational or Mohd Yunus
By Sultan Shahin -
5/21/2013 7:55:28 PM
WHAT IS THERE TO LEARN
FROM SUCH COMMENT, SULTAN SHAHEB?
10/23/2014 4:54:50 AM
complaining in full force. your prophet terminated them from the life and made
their females his slaves and had sex on the same night.
making your females captive to enjoy the free sex sanctioned by the Allah.
crocodile tears going to help them either.
prophet did a lot to other faiths and you and we are reaping the fruits of the
tree your prophet planted and watery it with blood of people and cursed them
where he couldn't murder them.
we are paying
the price for our elders did to others. and
your merciful tyrant god keep watching
mohammed yunus - 10/23/2014 11:15:33 PM
– Editor – New Age Islam
Muslims are blind followers of Hadees. Imam Bukhari and Muslim, etc. rescued us
from nearly half a million concocted ahadees.
they be? The question that ought to be raised should be, “How can a
civilization so betray its own sacred text?” Look at Ghulam Ghuas Saheb,
who is trying so hard to convince the readers about the “Authoritativeness of
Hadith.” Your own “In-House Islamic Scholar,” Sultan Saheb.
We should continue
to allow freedom of expression without which there can be no progress.
I have no
issues with “Freedom
of Expression.” However, I do have concerns with the “Freedom to
Provoke.” Your forum should be to conduct healthy debates
and not filthy debates.
What does an
editor do? Should one ban pornographic Hadees and militant verses of the Quran
from an Islamic website? I can assure you many Muslims do not even know such
verses and such hadees exist and they need to know. You cannot conduct a debate
in the absence of this knowledge.
You are right,
but you simply fail to realize that the Muslims hardly make sincere attempt to
learn the Holy Quran. If you think by exposing them with the Quranic verses
along with the fabricated Hadees, then you got to be kidding. All you need to
do is to look back at your forum’s archives. See for yourself what you have
accomplished thus far? It is the same old recycling of debates that never seem
to enlighten any readers.
Jan 9th 2015
CAN classical Islam be reconciled with freedom of expression as a modern, liberal-minded person would understand the term? It is not merely Wednesday's horrible events in Paris which make that question urgent. In Saudi Arabia today, a liberal blogger, Raif Badawi,received the first 50 of the 1,000 lashes to which he has been condemned (along with a 10-year prison sentence) because of the allegedly impious contents of a website he founded. And in Pakistan, where the judiciary and the lynch mob take turns to persecute people on ever-crazier blasphemy charges, a man accused of that offence, and then deemed mentally unstable, was killed by fanatics soon after being released from jail.
Let's consult an authority who is considered moderate in the spectrum of traditional Islam, Mohammad Hashim Kamali, an Afghan-born, British-trained law professor who now heads an institute of Islamic studies in Malaysia. His copious writings on the matter are adamant that Islam does allow, indeed insist on, freedom of religious choice, and on diversity of opinion about many matters. He has written approvingly of cases in Malaysia where apostasy (leaving Islam) was allowed, although recently Malaysian courts have taken a harsher line.
But as the professor presents things, there are clear limits to free speech. As he describes it, early Islamic lore (whose precedents can't be ignored) is overwhelmingly concerned with the avoidance of Fitna, a term that can mean many undesirable things from sedition to confusion to war or anarchy; Islam deplores (though you can argue about how severely it seeks to punish) any kind of speech that leads to or in itself amounts to Fitna. And in early Islamic polities, sedition and heresy were almost indistinguishable. If you tried to overthrow a caliph who was carrying out the will of God, that was impiety as well as treason; and if you poisoned the well of religious truth, you were undermining the political community as well as the faith. On a broader note, the professor writes:
The right to criticise government leaders and express an opinion, critical or otherwise, in public affairs...is the right of every citizen, Muslim and non-Muslim alike. However...in matters that pertain to the dogma of Islam, criticism either from Muslims or non-Muslims will not be entertained, as personal or private opinion does not command authority in such matters.
That sounds alarming to a modern libertarian ear. On the other hand, the holder of such beliefs isn't necessarily asking the state to enforce them, let alone enforce them brutally. For a devout Roman Catholic, it is equally the case that "personal or private opinion does not command authority" in fundamental matters of doctrine, but today's Catholics don't usually expect the state to punish those who challenge those core doctrines. Even Professor Kamali acknowledges the need to change with the times: in some cases "the formulations of established schools of (Islamic) law...may not serve the needs of harmony and cohesion and multi-religious societies of our time."
Perhaps the best hope is that they lived experience of Muslims who are citizens of Western countries will evolve faster than these complex theoretical constructs. Consider the tweet which many articulate Muslims have been exchanging since yesterday, in tribute to the policeman who died in the Paris attack: "I am Ahmed the dead cop. Charlie ridiculed my faith and culture and I died defending his right to do so." Consciously or unconsciously this was written in imitation of another Parisian, Voltaire, and his apocryphal declaration that "I do not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it..." Personally I find Ahmed's posthumous message, issued by his co-religionists, more moving than the French philosopher's famous line, which at best was a summary of his thinking, by a biographer, rather than anything he actually said.
How can any
sane Muslim encourage another Muslim to be cheerful? Many of our fellow Muslims
have a difficult time to act with humility.
Yes, only the
blind followers of Hadiths are stuck in the 7th century. Those who
have kept abreast with modern day heroes, do not have the same mind set. May I
ask, “Which snipers and fighters are you referring to?” It seems just like “Ex-Tablighi,”
you are also taking messages out of context only to throw a negative light on
forgetting that Clint Eastwood, Muhammad Ali, Robin Williams, are all American
legends. Does that mean that ordinary Americans are also inflicted with the
same mindset? If you carry such an opinion, then I am sorry to say that you are
dead wrong. Keep in mind that, I am an American Muslim.
Do you know
that you have totally skipped answering my two comments? One relates to Sahih
Bukhari, and another updates about “Knowledge is Power.” What you need to do is to
encourage your “In-House
Islamic Scholars,” to confront certain Hadiths and be
courageous enough to submit their explanation to the readers. The truth of the
matter is, you, Sultan Shahin Saheb, should take a lead, as you are the “Editor &
Moderator,” of your very own forum. The words to the
wise is sufficient.
I am glad Lodhia Saheb you are recognising
how difficult a task encouraging Muslims to change is. I remember the tag-line.
But you should also understand that our community is still stuck in the seventh
century mindset. In fact even the Clint Eastwood Club and hero worship of
boxers, snipers and other fighters is only an indication of the same mindset.
Hadees and Seera was created by this mindset which cannot accept a
peace-loving, compromise-loving, bloodshed avoiding person as a hero. Our
Prophet was not a sword wielding warrior. He was a dweller of caves, someone
who would spend weeks on end contemplating the ills of society and ways of
reform. But those who wanted a warrior prophet as their hero created one
through fabricating ahadees and giving universality to contextual, aggressive,
militant verses of Quran.
is truly shocking that the Muslim intellectuals are so much obsessed with the
two words, “Kafir,” and “Jihad.”
“Knowledge is Power,” is what our fellow humans believe in, whereas, all the “Muslim Jihadists,” know is “Killing is Holy.” Worst of all, the
Muslim intelligentsia somehow want to be dragged endlessly into futile debates.
a shadow of doubt, it is the blind followers of Hadiths, I repeat, the blind
followers of Hadiths, who have collectively made it a living hell for the millions
of Muslims around the world. They are deeply indoctrinated so such an extent that no one can even dare change their mindset. It is a lost cause, so to speak.
is truly “Mind Boggling,” that your forum, “New Age Islam,” with a tag line, “Mapping an Agenda for the 21st Century,”
has remain engulfed in the quagmire of continuously
being involved in the same old debates over and over again. In this day and
age, the grown-up Muslim intellectuals are not able to catch up with speed, as
to what is happening in the world.
hereby, invite all the readers to visit the recently developed blog:
the respected readers, especially the Muslims, reflect and ponder over, and
think as to how much of the worldly knowledge do they possess? That’s a million
dollar question, Sultan Saheb.
Read those articles: Part
1: The Four Principle Of ‘Jihad As War’
2: Refutation of the Excuses or Justifications Offered By the Terrorist Groups
Sultan Shahin Saheb,
wrote, “I am merely saying that in the age of the internet we cannot deal with
issues by remaining silent. It's no secret that many ahadees and Quranic
verses, are used for terrorist indoctrination. In order to save our children
from joining militant armies and turning into suicide bombs which they are now
doing in growing numbers, we need to talk about them and explain if these
verses continue to guide our conduct today.”
request to get into yet another round of debates pertaining to the selected verses
of Quran do not make any sense at all. Your so-called “In-House Prosecutor,”
or should I say, your “In-House Tormentor,” who happens to be an “Ex-Tablighi,”
will disrupt everything.
your own energy and time. Better yet, spare the readers of witnessing the joy
of provocation. In fact, as an editor of “New Age
Islam,” your first and foremost task should be to remain absolutely
focused on finding out the reason as to why certain Hadiths are circulating
without being challenged by your own “In-House Islamic Scholars.” For
Bukhari: 4:52:220 Allah's
Apostle said "I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts
of the enemy)"
Ibn Ishaq: 572 “Muhammad is the
man, an Apostle of my Lord. Evil was the state of our enemy so they lost the
day. Fortunes change and we came upon them like lions from the thickets. The
armies of Allah came openly, flying at them in rage, so they could not get
away. We destroyed them and forced them to surrender. In the former days there
was no battle like this; their blood flowed freely. We slew them and left them
in the dust. Those who escaped were choked with terror. A multitude of them
were slain. This is Allah’s war in which those who do not accept Islam will
have no helper. War destroyed the tribe and fate the clan.”
again for reading, I remain
Mr Shahin says: “Mr
Naseer Ahmed will do a great service if, as a Quran expert, he could
contextualise these verses and explain why they were revealed and
under what circumstances.”
My article contextualizes
all verses dealing with the kafaru among the Muslims, Jews, Christians and the
Polytheists as necessarily referring to the people in the Prophet’s times since, kafaru is not a term that the Quran uses for people of any faith. This
has been brought out very clearly. The common misconception is that Kafir,
Mushrik and idol worshipper are synonyms. In another thread, it is being
discussed that Al Azhar is unable to say
whether the Christians of today are kafir or not! The article takes into
account every verse containing kafir or its grammatical variants to drive home
the point that the Quran, at no stage, treated all people belonging to any
faith as kafir and always kept the distinction between those who are kafir
among the Muslims, Jews, Christians and Polytheists and those who are not.
Since the fighting is only against the kafaru and every verse regarding
fighting gives an explicit reason for fighting without exception, there is
nothing more that is required. Considering that even Al Azhar is confused about
the meaning of kafir in the Quran, my
article goes a long way in making things clear.
Islam was under
dire threat of extinction without waging war on those who wanted to annihilate
it and fighting was ordained. The Muslims had to be persuaded to fight a
numerically superior enemy and there are verses that make fighting mandatory
for those Muslims who were in Medina with the Prophet. Fighting was not
ordained for those who stayed behind in Mecca as that would have amounted to
treason. The Muslims were advised to migrate to Medina and there is a verse
which specifically prohibits the Prophet from helping the Muslims who stayed
behind in Mecca in any manner except in matters of religion. This covers all the verses exhorting the
Muslims to fight.
implication unfortunately is that Islam is a religion of violence if the “rest
is not ignored”!
is Mr. Naseer Ahmed Observer's view, not mine.
am merely saying that in the age of the internet we cannot deal with issues by
remaining silent. It's no secret that many ahadees and Quranic verses, are used
for terrorist indoctrination.' In order to save our children from joining
militant armies and turning into suicide bombs which they are now doing in
growing numbers, we need to talk about them and explain if these verses continue
to guide our conduct today. Are the terrorist ideologues justified in misusing the Muslim belief in Quran as an infallible and universal source of guidance for promoting violence. I believe Islam is a religion of peace
and tolerance, but I also believe that merely saying so repeatedly and quoting verses promoting peace and co-existence is not going
to help us in the present age. Militancy is growing. An army of suicide bombers emerges from Muslim societies wherever some vested interest needs them. This should cause great concern in the community.
Mr Naseer Ahmed will do a great service if, as a Quran expert, he could contextualise these verses and explain why they were revealed and
under what circumstances. Our prime task at the moment should be to save our
children from taking the path of militancy in their impatient quest for Heaven.
Apart from a host of ahadees available on Taliban and other terrorist websites,
a moderate Muslim thinker, Dr. Shabbir Ahmed of Florida too has cited the
following Qur'anic verses in this regard and tried to explain some of them. We
will need to contextualise and explain all these verses individually. All I am
saying is we cannot ignore them, or stay silent about them any more. We will be
happy to host Naseer saheb's essay contextualising these verses and explaining
their circumstances and guiding the community if we Muslims still need to
consider them as God's exhortation for us in this day and age:
Fighting is ordained for you, even though it is hateful to you. But it may
happen that you hate a thing that is good for you, and it may happen that you
love a thing that is bad for you. For, God knows and you know not. [See 2:190-193,
They ask you about fighting in any Month of Security. Say, “Fighting in the
prescribed Months of Security is a great transgression. (2:194). However,
repelling men from the Way of God, and rejecting His Command of peace in those
Months and turning people away from the Masjid of Security and the Prescribed
Way of Life, and evicting its people from there, are greater offences in the
Sight of God. Persecution is a crime far greater than killing.” They will not
cease from fighting against you until they make you revert from your Way of
Life, if they can. He among you who goes back from his Deen and dies in
disbelief these are the ones whose works are rendered vain in this world and
the Hereafter. These are the companions of Fire, to abide therein.
Fight in the Cause of God, and know that God is Hearer, Knower.
is propagated as a verse of universal value, even forgetting the verse which
says: Fight only in self-defence and against oppression since God does not love
God will distinguish the bad from the good, then pile the bad on top of one
another and cast them together in the Hellfire. They are truly the losers. [The
clans of rejecters will join hands to fight the believers, but the battleground
will become Hell for them]
(O Prophet) Tell the disbelievers that if they cease hostilities, all their
past will be forgiven. But if they return, they will meet the example of the
Fight and subdue those who persist in aggression until persecution is no more,
and absolute freedom of religion is established. People must be able to adopt a
religion only for God’s Approval, and as free choice (2:193, 12:108). If they
cease from aggression, God is the Seer of their actions, and therefore you shall
leave them alone.
(Sustained commitment to the Divine Order with wealth and person is not an easy
undertaking.) After the times of Moses, some leaders of the Israelites promised
their Prophet (Samuel), “If you appoint a king for us, we will fight in the
Cause of God.” The Prophet said, “Is it your intention to refrain from fighting
if it was decreed to you?” They said’ “Why should we not fight in the Cause of
God when we have been driven out of our homes with our children?” Yet when
fighting was ordained for them, they turned away all but a few. God is Aware of
(Only recently at Badr) there was a sign for you in the two armies that met in
combat. One was fighting in the Cause of God, the other denying Him. With their
own eyes the two armies saw each other as twice their number. But God
strengthens people with His support according to His Laws. This must be a
lesson for people of vision for all times.
And that He might mark out those afflicted with hypocrisy. They had been told,
“Come! Fight in the Cause of God, or at least defend (the city).” They
answered, “If we knew that confrontation was forthcoming, we would have indeed
joined you.” On that day they were closer to disbelief than belief, uttering
with their mouths something that was not in their hearts. But God was best
Aware of what they were trying to conceal.
Those who sat at home said of their brethren, “If they had listened to us they
would not have been slain.” Say (O Messenger), “Then avert death from your own
selves if you are truthful.”
Think not of those, who are slain in the Cause of God, as dead. Nay, they are
living! And by their Lord they are well provided for. [2:154, 3:156]
They are happy in the Bounty that God has given them - and pleased for those
left behind, who have not yet joined them - that upon them shall be no fear,
nor anything to regret.
They rejoice because of the favor from God and the Bounty. For, God never fails
to reward those who have conviction in His Laws.
For those who respond to God and the Messenger even after harm has struck them
- and continue to work for the betterment of humanity and live upright, is a
tremendous reward. [8:24]
Thus their Lord accepts and answers their prayer, “Indeed, I never let the work
of any worker, male or female, go vain. You are members, one of another. Hence,
those who emigrate, and are driven from their homelands, and suffer harm in My
Cause, and fight, and are slain, I shall certainly blot out their faults,
erasing the imprints of their misdeeds on their ‘self’. And certainly, I shall
admit them into Gardens with streams flowing beneath - a handsome return from
God's Presence. For, with God is the fairest return of actions. [2:186]
Subdue them regardless of their tribal affiliations, and drive them out of
where they drove you out. For persecution, (terror, torture, oppression) is a
crime even more grievous than killing. Do not fight against them near the
Masjid of Security (a haven of amnesty) unless they attack you therein. But if
they attack you there, then you shall fight against them. Such has to be the
rebuttal of those who reject (the Standard of Peace).
Hence, fight them only until there is no more harassment, and Deen may be
adopted for the sake of God alone. And if they desist, then let there be no
hostility except against those who replace peace with aggression. 2:194 You may
fight during the Months of Peace and Security if you are attacked, for, a
violation of sanctity will activate the Law of Just retribution. So, the one
who attacks you should expect retaliation in like manner. Be mindful of God,
and know that God is with those who live upright.
(Defence of the Divine Order calls for sacrifice of wealth and person.) Hence,
keep open your resources in the Cause of God, and let not your own hands throw
you into destruction. Be beneficent! Indeed, God loves the doers of good. [You
might throw yourselves into destruction by withholding contributions to this
Let them fight in God’s Cause, all those who sell the life of this world for
the other. Whoever fights in God’s Cause, be he slain or be he victorious, We
shall soon give him an immense reward.
What has happened to you that you do not fight in the Cause of God? Defenceless
men, women, and children are being oppressed and crying, "Our Lord! Rescue
us from this town whose people are oppressors, and raise for us protectors and
helpers." [God does not fight in person, or send His armies or angels
Believers fight in the Cause of God, that is, for the removal of tyranny and in
self-defence (benign aggression). And the rejecters of the Truth fight in tyranny
and for their selfish desire to oppress people (malignant aggression). So fight
against those friends of Satan. Surely, Satan's plan is feeble because the
selfish desire fails before the Divine Law of Requital.
Have you seen those who have been told, “Curb your hands, and establish the
Divine System and set up the just Economic Order?”But as soon as the Command
came to fight, some of them feared men as they should have feared God, or even
more. They say, "Our Lord! Why have You ordained fighting for us? If only
You had granted us a little more delay!" Say, “Brief is the enjoyment of
this world, whereas the life to come is the best for those who live upright.
None of you shall be wronged a hair’s breadth.”
Wherever you may be, death will find you, even if you live in fortified
castles. When something good happens to them, they say, “It is from God.” And
when affliction befalls them they say to each other, “This is from you O
fellow-man!” Tell them, “All things happen according to God’s Laws.” What is
amiss with these people, they do not understand a thing?
(O Messenger) Fight in the Cause of God. You are responsible only for yourself.
Inspire the believers (to conquer all fear). God may well curb the might of the
unbelievers (who are bent upon destroying the System). For God is the Strongest
in Might, and Strongest in the ability to deter. [2:151]
You will find others who desire peace for their people and make peace with you.
But at the slightest opportune moment they come to fight against you. If they
neither leave you alone, nor offer peace, nor hold their hands, subdue them
regardless of which group they belong to. In their case, God has given you a
clear Authority to fight.
The just punishment for those who wage war against God and His Messenger and
endeavor to commit bloody crimes on earth, is that they be killed or crucified,
or have their hands and feet severed on alternate sides, or be entirely
banished from the land. Such is their disgrace in this world, and an awful suffering
awaits them in the Hereafter.
God made them few in your vision. Had He made them appear more numerous (and
you got intimidated by their great numbers), you
would have been discouraged. And you would have disputed among yourselves
(whether fighting them at Badr was a good idea).
God saved you from faltering. He is fully Aware of what is in the hearts.
When the two armies faced each other, He made them appear few in your eyes, and
made you appear weak in their eyes (3:12).
willed that to be the Day of Distinction. All matters go back to God’s Laws as
O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! Whenever you meet an army, be
firm and remember God much, that you may be successful.
When you encounter them in war, deal with them to set an example for those who
come after them, that they may remember.
Let not the rejecters suppose that they can get away with their violations.
They cannot escape the Law of Requital.
Make ready for them all the power you can muster, and all the equipment you can
mobilize so that you may deter the enemies of God, and your enemies. And others
beside them whom you know not, God knows them. Whatever wealth and effort you
spend on your defences, will be your spending in the Cause of God, and it will
be repaid to you generously. And you shall not be wronged.
O Prophet! Inspire the believers (to conquer all fear of death) in times of
war. If there be twenty of you who are patient in adversity, they shall
overcome two hundred, and if there be one hundred of you, they shall overcome
one thousand of those who are bent upon denying the Truth. This is because the
rejecters of the Truth are people who cannot understand (the Eternal rewards
that motivate the believers).
For the time being, however, God has lightened your burden, for He knows that
you are weak. And so, if there be one hundred of you who are steadfast in
adversity, they should be able to overcome two hundred; and if there be one
thousand of you, they should be able to overcome two thousand by God’s Leave.
For, God is with those who are steadfast in adversity.
If they keep breaking their pledges after their treaty, and assail your System,
then fight the chiefs of the disbelievers. They have no respect for their
binding oaths. This action will help restrain them from aggression.
Will you not fight a folk who keep breaking their solemn pledges and did
everything to drive out the Messenger, and did attack you first? What! Do you
fear them? Nay, it is God alone Whom you should more justly fear, if you are
Fight them! God will punish them at your hands, and He will humiliate them, and
give you victory over them, and He will soothe the bosoms of those who believe.
Do you think that you will be left alone without God distinguishing those among
you who strive in His Cause, and take none for ally except God, His Messenger,
and the believers? And God is Aware of what you do.
Fight back against those who do not believe in God, nor in the Last Day, nor do
they prohibit what God and His Messenger have prohibited, nor do they
acknowledge the True Deen - among those who were given the Scripture, until
they pay Jizya in humility.
They (Jews and Christians) seek to extinguish God’s Light (the Qur’an) by their
utterances. But God will not allow this to pass, for He has willed to spread
His Light in all its fullness even though the rejecters may detest it.
He it is Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the True Religion (Deen =
The System of Life), that He may cause it to prevail over all religions and
systems of life, even though the idolaters may detest it. [9:31-33, 13:31,
14:48, 18:48, 41:53, 48:28, 51:20-21, 61:8-9]
by Dr. Shabbir Ahmed: “the Qura’nic Deen will prevail over all other systems of
life. This refers to religions such as Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism and all
other forms of religion, including the sects that are now present in Islam. But
next to religions, the Qur’anic Deen will also prevail over all political
systems of the world such as Communism, Secular Democracy, Theocracy, Monarchy
and it will rule over all ways of life as Humanism, Socialism and so on. This
will happen as humanity willingly realizes the supremacy of The Qur’an”.]
God has ordained twelve months in one year. This has been God’s Ordinance since
the day He created the heavens and the earth. Four of these Months are Sacred,
forbidden for all warfare. This is the Firm Religion, the right way. So, do not
wrong yourselves by fighting during the Sacred Months. However, you may fight
the idolaters in any or all these months if they fight against you in any or
all of them (2:194). And know that God is with those who restrain themselves.
O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! What is amiss with you that,
when called upon, “Go forth in the Cause of God,” you cling heavily to the
ground? Do you choose pleasure in the life of this world rather than in the
life to come? The enjoyment of this life is but a paltry thing compared to the
If you did not go forth in God’s Cause, He (His Law) will afflict you with a
painful doom. He will replace you with another nation. You cannot harm Him in
the least. All things transpire according to the Laws appointed by God. [Only
the competent nations live honorably on earth. 21:105, 24:55]
Go forth lightly armed, or heavily armed and strive with your wealth and person
in the Cause of God. This is best for you if you but knew.
Those who have conviction in God and the Last Day, do not ask you for exemption
from striving with their wealth and persons. And God is Aware of those who live
Even if they had gone forth they would have only caused trouble and run to and
fro seeking sedition among you. In your ranks are some apt to listen to them
and in your ranks are spies of the enemy. God knows the wrongdoers.
They have sought to create dissension among you before, and raised difficulties
for you (O Prophet). They did that till the Truth came and the Decree of God
prevailed, though they detested it.
Of them is he who says, “Grant me leave, and do not draw me into trial.” Have
they not fallen into trial already? In fact, Hell is all around the
Say, "Can you expect for us other than one of two things?" - (Victory
or martyrdom). On the other hand, we expect for you that God will send His
retribution from Himself, or by our hands. Wait then expectant, and we shall
hopefully wait with you.”
(Some hypocrites want to make financial contributions.) Tell them, "Your
contribution is not accepted whether you pay willingly or unwillingly. You are
a people who drift away from the System at the first opportune time."
If you meet the disbelievers in battle, then, strike at their Command centres.
Until you have subdued them, then, bind them firmly. And thereafter, must be an
act of kindness or ransom when the battle lays down its weapons. And if God
willed, He could indeed punish them Himself, but that He may let you test one
by means of another (as to which nation remains vigilant.) And, as for those
who are slain in the Cause of God, He does not render their actions vain.
38:40. Commentary by Dr. Shabbir Ahmed (available at www.ourbeacon.com)]: “Free
the captives as an act of kindness or ransom, such as in exchange for your men
in their captivity. There is no third option. Fadharb ar-riqaab is usually
rendered as ‘smite their necks.’ A little contemplation, however, makes it
plain that in a battle of swords and arrows no commander would order his
soldiers to aim for the necks alone. Therefore, the stated term has been used
idiomatically, indicating knocking out the command centres. It is interesting
to note that even in today’s encounters with high technology this principle is
given a top priority.”
Is the Quran itself merely a form of Hadees? "Quran is uncreated, divine, like God Himself, but nevertheless, only a form of Hadees. After all, how did Quran come to us? It came to us from the mouth of the Prophet, spoken by the Prophet. So it is apparently a saying (Hadees) of the Prophet. But it is also uncreated, divine, God Almighty."
This is the gist of what I heard at some length from a classical Islamic scholar, having highest degrees from Sufi madrasas, visiting me a couple of days ago.
I wonder, if any reader would share his or her thoughts and enlighten me on this further. Is Quran just a compilation of Ahadees and at the same time uncreated, Divine, God Almighty Himself. This clearly is not an idle thought of an aalim; this is the considered view of all ulema in our madrasas. Though this particular aalim is a product of Sufi/Bareilwi madrasas, as more or less the same books are taught in all madrasa, this must be the prevailing opinion of all our classical scholars.
Dear Rational Muhammed Younus,
In your last comment to Rafiq Lodhia Sahab,
you said: “You are doing what your prophet did to his opponents.” (Implying
using abusive language when read in continuation with your preceding
The truth that is furnished by the Qur'an
preserved in the memory of the huffaz since the Prophet's era (regardless of
whether the Prophet made it up or God sent it down) is as follows:
The Meccans called him impostor (30:58),
insane (44:1, 68:51), and an insane poet (37:36), and ridiculed the Qur’anic
revelation (18:56, 26:6, 37:14, 45:9). They found the revelation strange and
unbelievable (38:5, 50:2), and condemned it as the legends of the ancients
(6:25, 23:83, 27:68, 46:17, 68:15, 83:13). They questioned why Muhammad could
not show any miracles (6:37, 11:12, 13:7, 17:90-93, 21:5, 25:7/8, 29:50), and
why the Qur'an was not revealed to a man of importance from the two cities
(43:31) and declared that other people coached Muhammad or dictated to him morning
and evening (25:5, 44:14). They also charged him with forging lies and
witchcraft (34:43, 38:4), forging lies against God, forgery and making up tales
(11:13, 32:3, 38:7, 46:8), witchcraft (21:3, 43:30, 74:24), obvious witchcraft
that was bewildering (10:2, 37:15, 46:7) and of being bewitched or possessed by
a Jinn (17:47, 23:70, 34:8).
The Qur'an also describes the Prophet as a
noble messenger (81:19) and a man of sublime character (68:4).
The problem as expounded in my article
referenced below is as follows:
Many sexually loaded, deeply misogynic,
sadistic and hatred inducing Ahadith are also attributed to the Prophet. They
are no more than human imageries of a later era that found expression in the
ever expanding Hadith corpus in the first two centuries of Islam. Muslim Ulema
never quoted them as they knew they were simply forged and fabricated
(technically ‘weak’). Today they are quoted both by non-Muslims and radical
Muslims to conflate them with Islamic message. But the truth is the Hadith is
not a divine scripture of Islam as expounded in the following article:
Is Not A Divine Scripture Of Islam – A La Qur’an
the Prophet of Islam against Vulgar Charges from both Islamophobic and Radical
Islamic Intellectuals and So Called Rationalists
Incidentally, your adopted title puts you
in the category of Muslims who bring vulgar charges against the Prophet as you
said in your statement quoted above, without a shred of evidence. Unless you
produce any evidence to what you implied: that is, the Prophet used abusive
language to his opponents, you are either a quack or confounded or deluded if
not a liar.
To: All Muslim Readers @ New Age Islam
Personal attack is perfectly alright whenever non-stop insults keeps
pouring in regardless of how convincing of a reply is given. The fools and
morons will never show any decency, hence, why should we continue to tolerate all
the baseless insults against the religion of Islam?
“Ex-Tablighi,” is basically acting as a “Prosecuting Attorney,” on
this forum. His sole purpose is to distort every single rebuttal so that he can
brag about how bad is the religion of which he continues to hold to the name of
its founder. The idiot is right. He alone
is the root cause of all the debates of transformation and/or reformation going
right down the gutter.
Yes, I am acutely aware of my harsh words. However, under the
circumstances, and at the same time, knowing well that everyone on this forum
prefer to remain silent, then someone has to speak up. Unfortunately, Muslims
have become a bunch of “Worthless Spectators.” Little wonder that we cannot
even stand up against anyone who assassinates the character of the Prophet of
Islam. Imagine, how morally degraded we have become lately?
For long, the “Ex-Tablighi,” has conducted his unruly circus by
thinking in his own sweet mind that he is the only one who is capable of prosecuting the Muslims who
believe in the Holy Quran. Now, he will be given a fitting reply, and that also
indirectly. As for “Secular/Perverted Logic,” let the pompous windbag
come in and out of the forum to play his usual game of provocation. One thing
is clearly visible. He hates Muslims, period.
All in all, if King Abdullah is finally “Standing Tall,”
against the evildoers, then why can’t the rest of the Muslims? Be
bold, be courageous and give your honest to goodness input on the “New Age Islam”
forum. Do not fear about whether you are able to write or not. Just give it a
try, and all of you will be splendidly surprised. Simply, have faith and defend
Islam and our beloved Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him).
RELIGION IS ABOUT
Obama is right. At its best, religion
is about humility. It starts with a faith in
something greater than yourself. Part
of that faith is understanding that you’re
not great enough to understand who God
is. All you know is that he isn’t you.
When you start to think that you know
God’s mind, that he speaks only to you,
that you alone are in possession of the
truth, that’s when you become dangerous.
And being a Christian won’t save you.
CHRIST’S SAKE – Link
to the Article
February 9, 2015
IT’S DEED THAT MATTER,
One common criticism of public diplomacy is: It’s deeds that matter,
not words. Happy talk about American tolerance means nothing when the United
States is torturing Muslim detainees and locking them up in Guantánamo. Obama
announced on his first day in office that the United States would forswear
torture. He gave a major address in Cairo promising “a new beginning” in
relations between the United States and the Arab world based on “mutual
interest and mutual respect.” As an experiment in influencing Arab public
opinion, this seems to have been little more effective than advertising happy
talk. It would be good to perform the additional experiment of closing
Guantánamo, another alleged irritant, but I can’t believe it would matter.
Forging a two-state solution between Israel and the Palestinians would constitute the supreme test — one of Beers’s
successors, Karen Hughes, admitted to me that she told Bush that she wasn’t likely to get anywhere with Arab public opinion until Washington pushed
Israel to make peace — but it probably wouldn’t do much to drain the
swamp of jihadism.
THE WORLD WAR INSIDE ISLAM
One common criticism of public
diplomacy is: It’s deeds that matter, not words.
Happy talk about American tolerance
means nothing when the United States is
torturing Muslim detainees and locking
them up in Guantánamo. Obama announced
on his first day in office that the
United States would forswear torture. He gave a
major address in Cairo promising “a new
beginning” in relations between the United
States and the Arab world based on
“mutual interest and mutual respect.” As an
experiment in influencing Arab public
opinion, this seems to have been little more
effective than advertising happy talk.
It would be good to perform the additional
experiment of closing Guantánamo,
another alleged irritant, but I can’t believe it
would matter. Forging a two-state
solution between Israel and the Palestinians would
constitute the supreme test — one of
Beers’s successors, Karen Hughes, admitted
to me that she told Bush that she
wasn’t likely to get anywhere with Arab public
opinion until Washington pushed Israel
to make peace — but
wouldn’t do much to drain the swamp of
OUR FAITH, VALUES AND HUMANITARIAN PRINCIPLES
himself a former general, wasn’t bluffing: Not long after his meeting with U.S.
lawmakers, the king returned home and Jordan’s air force immediately launched
airstrikes on Islamic State positions, reportedly killing several enemy
blood of the martyred hero Muath Kasasbeh will not go in vain,” he said
Thursday, according to the Jordan Times. “We are
waging this war to protect our faith, values and humanitarian principles.”
as Jordan continued to rain hellfire on militants, social media users
everywhere began to learn more about Jordan’s so-called “Warrior King.”
T. Becket Adams
INTERNET FALLS IN LOVE
WITH ‘WARRIOR KING’
February 7, 2015
But Lodhia Saheb, how do you want me, an "honest moderator", to deal with varying opinions?
What will convince you that I am an "honest moderator?"
Shahin, Editor & All Muslim Readers @ New Age Islam
Subject: GOD GIVE US
First of all, let me quote you a poem which, I
feel, reflects the current situation of modern day Muslims. It can be
considered as a prayer ( dua ) a – longing for a strong and honest Muslim
leadership, which reads as as follows:
give us men! A time like this demands strong minds,
hearts, true faith and ready hands;
whom the lust of office does not kill;
whom the spoils of office cannot buy;
who possess opinions and a will;
who have honour, men who will not lie;
who can stand before a demagogue
damn his treacherous flatteries without winking;
men, sun crowned, who live above the fog,
public duty and in private thinking.
while the rabble with their thumb-worn creeds.
large possessions and their little deeds,
in selfish strife, Lo! Freedom weeps,
rules the land, and waiting Justice sleeps.
May Almighty Allah give us Muslims true faith
and a strong will, to hold opinions and stand before a demagogue. Today, we
rarely find a sincere and a devout Muslims who dare speak out against
fanaticism and narrow-mindedness which are still the dominant factors in
everyday life of many Muslims.
March 5, 1994
mohammedrafiqlodhia - http://www.wethemoderatemuslims.com
Lodhia Saheb, I am still wondering what exactly is the job of an honest moderator?
What do you expect me to do?
Muslim Readers @ New Age Islam
Ignore what? Continuous
distortion of certain facts by “The Pompous Windbag.”
is something that Muslims are long used to. Insutl for an insult is how the
game will be played from hereon. All
that has to be done is to question their intelligence. Nothing more, nothing
Saheb wants to play the role of Mahatma Gandhi. What he doesn’t realize is that
of India,” was not won by Gandhi alone, but with the
help of all of his comrades. One of them being Maulana Abul Kalam Azad (May
Almighty Allah rest his soul in peace).
Imagine, the man
continuously reminds the Muslims about “Iota of Truth”! Bigots don’t know the actual
truth, as they are too busy manipulating it all day long.
Guess what! “The Pompous Windbag”
will eventually reveal to all, as to how stupid can one get.
Logic,” has once again been applied. We all are fully aware of the fact
that Al-Jazeera is the only channel that will show full and transparent
news of the Middle East region. It seems like the man is living in a twilight
has left his brain somewhere. What the fool misses is the burning of the
Palestinian children by the bombardment by Israeli Air Force. That will not
matter at all to a hate-monger anyway.
Oh well, keep
on reading, as more is yet to come. It’s high time to get the man in the ring,
so that he will be compelled to answer tough questions. You all know, how he
hides and cannot come out in the open.
Subject: THE POMPOUS
This description fits “Secular Logic,” perfectly well. It means:
loves the sound of his own words so much that they have convinced themselves
they actually know what they are talking about.”
bigot continues to live in his own make believe world, that he exist, think,
read, and can express an opinion. Well, doesn’t he know that we the “Moderate
Muslims,” are equally capable to think, read and
express our opinions too? What a fool?
it, the man wakes up with an incurable itch coupled with a sheer joy of
provocation directed only against Muslims. Talking about “Holier Than Thou,”
then one only need to take a hard look at “THE POMPOUS WINDBAG.”
Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 11:29 PM
To: 'Mike Ghouse'
Cc: 'Dr. Zuhdi Jasser'; 'Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser'; 'Salam Al-Marayati'; 'Nihad
Awad'; 'Dr. Sayyid M. Syeed'; 'Naeem Baig'; 'Kashif Al-Huda'; 'Ahmed Rehab';
'Hoda Elshishtawy'; 'Lea Benson'; 'Dr. M. A. Muqtedar Khan'; 'Iftekhar Hai';
Sultan Shahin; Muhammad Yunus ; Ghulam Mohiyuddin
Subject: WHAT IS HONEST JOURNALISM ABOUT?
WHAT IS HONEST JOURNALISM ABOUT? That’s
the question which was raised by one of the commentators in the “New Age Islam,” forum.
“Journalistic Integrity,” of Fox News was questioned by Sadaf. It is
amazing that the network, whom the Muslims as a whole dislike, will go out of
the way to broadcast the 22 minutes, 30 seconds video of Flight Lieutenant Moaz
al-Kasasbeh (May Almighty Allah rest his soul in peace).
BBC News reported, “Fox News explains why it showed Jordan pilot video.”
It is a known fact that Fox News has never been sympathetic to the
Palestinians cause. During last Gaza War, your friend, Sean Hannity was more so
concerned about the casualties on the Israeli side, and he never bothered to
show the massive destruction by the Israeli Defense Forces, let alone the death
of so many children. What Fox News should have done was to post the YouTube
Video link of Dr. Mads Gilbert, in order to inform the worldwide viewers about
the sufferings and brutality caused by the American made armaments.
Nothing should come as a surprise to the Muslims. The need of the hour
is to try to encourage the educated American Muslims to question Fox News as to
what happened to their “Fair & Balanced,” slogan which they feel so
You and Dr. Zuhdi Jasser are always invited on Fox News, and as such,
it will be good to know from either of you, as to how can Sean Hannity be
reached. Most certainly, there are capable American Muslims across the country
who can at least put good folks at Fox News on spot. Why not? You bet, many
voices is bound to make them very uncomfortable. Yes, it is time to stand tall
and be united in our collective efforts to address the U.S. foreign policy
which has also been one of the root causes of breeding terrorism in the Middle
Mike, let’s not forget that the social media is a powerful venue as
you well know. The Muslim voices can be heard loud and clear, not only in
America, but all over the world. In any case, I am attaching Sadaf’s comment,
in order for you to catch a glimpse of his concerns about Fox News.
Finally, make a note that I am posting this message on “New Age
Islam’s” forum. I am also copying
this to Sultan Shahin, Editor of the forum. With more than one million readers,
I want my fellow Muslims to be made aware as to how hard it is to get a simple
information about whom to address our concerns at the Fox News channel from the
American Muslim leaders.
Awaiting the favor of your early reply.
Very sincerely yours,
I am still trying to make out what is honest journalism
about. Yesterday I saw the video clip of the Jordanian pilot being burnt alive.
The video was made available by Fox news on their website and very soon it will
be circulating through the social media across the globe. While presenting the
22 minute 30 second video, Fox news whom Muslims suspect to be playing
politics, mentions that they know that showing such footage is against the
principles of journalism because it contains gory and ghastly image, however
they still are showing it for the larger good. Now i am wondering that does
showing the footage as it happened helps in larger good when chances are that
people will react more angrily against the perpetrators and on not
finding them will pour out their angst on them whom they suspect, or is it that
the larger good lies in pacifying the people and let them bury their cries and
tears, and move on? Isn't Fox really playing politics by continuing to stir
people's anger? Is that honest journalism? Perhaps yes. Whatever was there,
they just showed it. But then why do they refrain from showing such ghastly
things otherwise. They should be doing it always as it happens all the time
everywhere. Additionally, they should only be doing so without justifying that
they want to make a positive change. What right do journalists have to try to
change the course of history? Their job should have been to just report, without
adding any mirch masala or subtracting the starch. Isn't it? The point worth pondering
for all who are writing over here.
By sadaf - 2/8/2015 3:09:16 PM
By Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia - 2/8/2015 1:17:26 PM
Would be interesting to know what exactly is the job of an honest moderator?
Lodhia Saheb you seem to have seen too many boxing bouts of your hero Mohammad Ali? New Age Islam is not a boxing ring, Sir. And we are not associated with your "Clint Eastwood Club" either. We are not in the business of disarming Taliban either as Naseer Saheb Observer wanted us to do. We are merely trying to present a positive view of Islam and refute the claims of Jihadis within our very limited means.
Subject: True Grit
living through very difficult times. It is now far more dangerous than the time
of the Prophet of Islam. We are now 1.6 billion strong, but lack the will to
round up the evil doers in our midst.
Muslims have always been known to be more tolerant towards people of other
faiths. Tipping point was the Iranian Revolution of 1979, when the “Mullahs”
took over a country. From thereon, the image of Islam downgraded and it
continues to be the case till today.
must do is to learn to show their “True Grit.” I know, you do not like any “Cowboys,”
but here is another one of the YouTube videos, which might give you a slight
hint of what it will take to be brave and courageous to defeat ISIS, Boko Haram
fighting spirit, Sultan Saheb. We cannot let the “Jihadists,” and
“Mullahs,” destroy our Islamic Civilization.
No Lodhia Saheb, we should not abandon our tasks as the Prophet didn't despite initial failures. We should be patient and we should persevere in doing what we think is right. Only thing the Prophet was not allowed by God to do was to be angry, impatient, depressed, frustrated, in a word, negative. However, as we persevere, with a positive attitude and faith in God, we should look within, reconsider whether we are on the right path and if need be, revise our strategies, if we are not succeeding.
We should not blame others for our failures. Mindlessly.
And we should do all that we have set out to do without rancour. See, how Mahatma Gandhi overturned a whole imperialism, got us independence from the British, without hating them. Hate and anger are self-consuming. Gandhiji remained cheerful even in prison. So is Dalai Lama, ever-happy and cheerful, though he has spent a lifetime fighting occupation of his land. These are better examples to follow than those you are currently obsessed with.
Well, aside from you and Sultan Shahin Saheb, and of course, God, no one
knows the true identity of “Ex-Tablighi,” and “Secular Logic.”
Oh yes, the debate is going on fiercely. It is all “One-Sided,” as Sultan Saheb has long given
up playing the role of a “Moderator.” Now, he is advising all the
us accept that.”
Remember, once an “Tablighi,” always an “Tablighi.” Once a “Bigot,”
always a “Bigot.” These two are classic example of nut cases. Hence, let
them carry on with their hate-mongering.
I appreciate your response, and I do agree with you, 110%.
Smile and let these two clowns continue to show their true colors.
Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia
Lodhia Saheb, Mahatma
Gandhi considered Sura Fatoha as one of the most beautiful prayers in all
religions and included it in his own collection of prayers that he used to sing
every morning. But Secular Logis, Rational
and several others will differ. They have minds of their own. God has bestowed
upon them a mind different from us. They think differently. God has made them
different. Just accept that. Why get angry. Your anger is as much negative and
self-destructive as Rational's hatred. These negative emotions kill us.
Instead let us talk of
the beauty of Surah Fatiha that has appealed to many much greater minds than
Secular Logic and others. If we fail to convince them let us leave it at that.
Prophet Mohammad too had failed to convince more than a few score people in ten
years of hard work in Mecca. God had admonished him at his depression and
frustration at this failure. God has his own ways and his plans that we are not
aware of. If Islamic history is any guide, tomorrow both Secular Logic and Rational
Mohd Yunus may turn into better Muslims than we can ever hope to be. History of
Islam is full of miracles like this, as is the history of the world. Please
control your anger, depression and frustration. God doesn't appreciate these
negative emotions. Let us express our gratitude
at Mahatma Gandhi having embraced Sura Fatiha. Gratitude and Depression cannot
live in the same space. Don't allow Rational and Secular Logic to programme
your mind. Look at Mahatma Gandhi instead. Let us live our lives with an
attitude of gratitude. We have much to be grateful for, despite radials,
Jihadis, Islamophobes and so on. If the Prophet was not allowed to be depressed
when he had less than a hundred followers after ten years of hard work in Mecca,
what reason do you have to be so hyper-tense.
Sultan Shahin Saheb,
There you go again! Now you are shifting the blame on God. That’s awful.
You stated, “let us accept that.” That’s fine and dandy, but try not to cover-up “Ex-Tablighi”
abusive remarks. If you are willing to accept the insults, then you should
likewise let his remarks be read by your readers even if it might reflect bad upon
New Age Islam’s forum.
Sadly, what you are doing is to give a signal to all of your readers that
the man’s rebuttals, no matter how insulting, is not his own fault, but God’s
own fault. If such be the theory of forgiveness, then why are you so concerned
about the bloody “Jihadists.” You can easily assume that God made them the
killers, so let us accept that too.
Now, I am beginning to understand as to why you express concern about
those Muslims who wants to go after the terrorists, even if it be King Abdullah
of Jordan and his getting motivation from Clint Eastwood’s belief in “Hang ‘Em High.”
In case you are not aware, language of reason will never be understood by those
who mock or violates God’s commandments. How many times did you reasoned with “Ex-Tablighi”?
You eventually gave in and now the last resort is to conveniently blame it on
God. Likewise, New Age Islam should also not worry about reforming the Muslims
either. Why be so concerned about the Petro-Dollars? God gave Saudis the wealth
and they are using it to produce more “Jihadists.” Let us accept that.
To: Sultan Shahin Saheb –
Editor – New Age Islam
Subject: A Sweeping
Verdict Against Surah: Al-Fatiha.
expect such a sweeping remark from none other than a first-class bigot named “Secular
Logic,” who hangs around the “New Age Islam” forum.
Perhaps, it will be wise for your forum’s regular readers to ponder over the
quarrel with the Quran is that in its very first opening verse, it begins with
a partition of mankind - the believers, who are the favoured, and the unbelievers,
who are the scum of the earth who must be vanquished.
indoctrinated with this ideology are beyond cure.”
Saheb, acting as a “Moderator,” can you ask this “Coward,” to enlighten you and the rest
of the Muslim readers about his verdict? Apparently, he alone must be reading
certain books about Islam that 1.6 billion Muslims are not aware of. It will be
all the more appropriate to find out from this man who is nothing but a dedicated
out loud, try not to remind the readers with your oft-repeated belief that
Muslims can learn from the reasoning of “Perverted Logic.” The man hit
and then run away without answering any questions. To put it on record, that’s
all he is capable of doing.
remember, bigots do not want to hear the “Truth,” therefore, they resort
to such a despicable tactic to promote their agenda. Henceforth, I am sure that
your fellow Muslims will expect you to clarify such “A Sweeping Verdict Againt Surah: Al-Fatiha.” Bear
in mind that this man is a regular commentator on your forum, and as such, it
is your personal responsibility, acting as an “Editor,” to get a clarification
from him. In short, do not give him a pass like you have been doing in case of “Ex-Tablighi.”
All in all,
maintain a “Fair
and Balanced” approach towards the debate. If someone steps out of
line, then it is you who must ask relevant questions to those who are in the
business of what “Secular Logic,“ termed it as “Joy of Provocation.” Now
the question of the day is, “Are you going to play the role of an honest moderator,
or are you going to sweep this remark under the carpet?”
Dear Lodhia Saheb, I
do not value Rational Mohammad Yunus Saheb's opinion as highly as you seem to.
See, I am not complaining, though I think he is wrong in putting GRD on a
list from which GG and MH and AA, AN, and ZR, and several others from
my team are missing. I am also not happy with the order in which he has put us.
But, of course, he has a right to make his own assessments. It's God who has
given him a mind different from ours. So, if anything, it's God's fault, not
his. He is what God made him. Let us accept that.
Shahin Saheb – Editor – New Age Islam
asked, “Is this you learn from the Quran? How will you answer this question
given that you have been identified as fourth in line of his accusation about
your character in his comment?
recollect the verse from the chapter, “The Spider”? in the Holy Quran as follows:
has been revealed to you of the book, and pray regularly. Surely prayer
restrains one from indecency and evil and remembrance of God is greater. God
know knowledge of all your actions.”
Now acting as
an “Editor,” and also, “Moderator (?),” can you enlighten the
respected readers about the very meaning of the word “Indecency”?
For all I
know, when a person who holds on to the name of “Muhammad,” and insults his own religion,
then such an ugly act can most definitely be qualified as an act of “Indecency.” Agreed!
frankly, at times I keep wondering about the mission of “New Age Islam,” It
is quite obvious that “Indecent,” comments are allowed, and especially from a
Muslim, who is nothing but an avowed hater of Islam. You being a firm believer
of Speech,” should allow all of his remarks to be posted,
but at the same time, do not censor those remarks that are abusive. It is like covering up his sins, which you have done in the past.
I say, let the readers know his true character.
there is no need for any of the Islamic scholars to give any references to the
Hadiths. The verse from “The Spider,” is self-explanatory. Modern
day young Muslims should be explained about the moral teachings by ways of the Quran,
and not by too many versions of the Hadiths.
Mohiyuddin Saheb and Muhammad Yunus Saheb and many others, objected to relentless
displayed by “Ex-Tablighi.” This is as simple an explanation which I can
give you. Don’t forget, I belong to the lowest step, hence, even the person
being that low can identify the act of “Indecency.” What about you, Sultan Shahin
Mr Shahin says: “Before
you, another very respected New Age Islam reader and commentator thought I
had all the power in the world (not his words) and demanded that I disarm
the Taliban, stop the USA from helping Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, etc.”
I never said that and I have
responded to this nonsense before. What I have been asking is ‘why does not NAI
highlight the real cause of the problem and the only solution that will work?’.
I am glad that more and more
commentators have veered around to the view that the causes of terrorism have
more to do with the geopolitics in the region and less to do with the ideology.
A particularly dangerous strain of the ideology is undoubtedly gaining strength
on account of the geopolitics in the region but this is the effect and not the
Mr Shahin should explain why he
refused to publish the following article.
A solution to any problem
is possible only when we understand what caused or causes the problem. The
causes then need to be taken care of or eliminated to prevent further
aggravation of the problem or its spread. We can then focus on those already
Outside the Palestine/Israel theatre, the so called
“Islamic terrorist” activity began when the “Afghan Muhajideen” who were hailed
as freedom fighters by the US and the rest of the World, morphed into Al Qaeda.
Birth of the Afghan Mujahideen
The US led the Soviet Union into the Afghan trap by aiding the Islamic
fundamentalist Mujahideen six months before the Russians made their move,
knowing that "this aid was going to induce a Soviet military
Interview with Zbigniew
Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser, Le Nouvel
Observateur, Paris, 15-21 January 1998
Question: The former director of the CIA,
Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that
American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6
months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national
security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this
affair. Is that correct?
Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version
of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after
the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly
guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that
President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of
the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the
president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to
induce a Soviet military intervention.
Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate
of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into
war and looked to provoke it?
B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the
Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they
Q: When the Soviets justified their
intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret
involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them.
However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?
B: Regret what? That secret operation was an
excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap
and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the
border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to
the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a
war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the
demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.
Q: And neither do you regret having
supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future
B: What is most important to the history of the
world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up
Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?
Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has
been said and repeated Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.
B: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global
policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at
Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the
leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in
common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan
militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than
what unites the Christian countries.
It is conceivable that without the activism of the US, the Russians may
never have occupied Afghanistan and there may never have been a war.
The Problem inherent in a ‘Solution’ involving
Wars are fought by countries under the direction and control of their
“Mujahideen” who fought the war to drive out the Russians were drawn from 35
countries and numbered around three hundred thousand. There was no government
(in Afghanistan or in exile) to manage and control them and therefore none to
take care of them after the war. They were left to fend for
themselves. The US and Pakistan simply washed their hands off the problem
once the war was over.
If the US were to
disband their army in Afghanistan and leave the soldiers with their arms to fend
for themselves, we can expect them to behave just like the Taliban or perhaps
(Secretary of State) understood the nature of the problem very well and said
while answering a question during an interview with Fox News's Greta Van
Susteren: “To be fair we had helped to create the problem we are now fighting.
Because when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, we had this brilliant idea,
that we were gonna come to Pakistan and create a force of Mujahideen, equip
them with stinger missiles and everything else to go after the Soviets inside
Afghanistan…. and we were successful. The Soviets left Afghanistan and then we
said great! good bye! and washed our hands off, leaving these trained people
who were fanatical in Afghanistan and Pakistan, leaving them well-armed,
creating a mess frankly, that at the time we really didn't recognize, we were
just so happy to see the Soviet Union fall, and we thought ok fine, we're ok
now, everything's going to be so much better. Now you look back, the people
we're fighting today, we were supporting in the fight against the
The US army applies
several filters in their recruitment process and a candidate who inclines to the
religious right is not selected. Such people have been found to be the ones
more likely to remain maladjusted after a war and indulge in senseless violence
such as shooting sprees.
In the case of the
"mujahideen", normal boys were put through a process of
indoctrination in religious extremism using experts from Palestine in specially
set up madrassas!
The US understood the
risks very well based on their well-documented research which has become the
basis of their selection policies, but didn't care and I doubt if Pakistan
and Saudi Arabia anticipated the problems these fighters would create after the
The Afghan Mujahideen heroes morph into
The US fought a proxy war with the Soviet Union arming/training the
Mujahideen. The war broke the might of the Soviet Union who suffered an
ignominious defeat, leaving the US the only superpower. The US pre occupation
with the communist world ended, allowing it to focus on the strategic oil rich
Saddam obliged by occupying Kuwait giving Bush the opportunity to enter the ME.
When Saddam looked ready to withdraw from Kuwait, Bush unleashed a volley of
abuses, making it impossible for Saddam to withdraw and save face, forcing a
war. This was in 1991.
The Afghan Mujahideen had offered to liberate Kuwait just as they had
liberated Afghanistan from the Soviets but the Saudi monarch was afraid of the
growing influence of Osama and felt insecure. He therefore invited the US to
help liberate Kuwait. It would have been much cheaper and safer for the US to
use the Mujahideen to drive out the Iraqis. This however did not meet their
objectives for a larger role in the ME. This was the beginning of the rift
between the US and the Afghan Mujahideen who now morphed into Al Qaeda.
All the so called Islamic terrorist incidents are after the first Gulf
war and the first of these incidents was on February 26, 1993 – World Trade Center bombing, in
New York City. 6 killed.
The Magnitude of the
While it should have
been absolutely clear to all that it was a blunder to have used civilians to
fight wars and thereafter leave them to fend for themselves, nothing has
These “Mujahideens” or
“terrorists” continue to b