As being a Madrasa graduate, I know the ins and outs
of Madrasa education. So, to the best of my knowledge, there is nothing wrong
like violence in Madrasa education. What Madrasas need is a little amendment to
their syllabus. A particular subject –on how to ideologically cope with the newly
rising terrorism, extremism around the world- should be added to Madrasa
syllabus as compulsory. For that matter, those Quranic verses and Ahadith which
prohibit every kind of violence and terrorism and those ones which call for
peaceful coexistence, mutual harmony, true justice, should be significantly inculcated
into the minds of Madrasa students. Besides, Madrasa teachers/ Ulema should
prepare their students for refuting the extremist and jihadist literature.
The above-given idea will work much better than any
other fruitless ideas against Madrasa education.
school attack by Taliban, Shaykhul Islam Dr. Tahirul Qadri has suggested many
more good things to root out terrorism. Some of them are as follows;
war against terrorism should be declared as ‘our war’ and a joint sitting of
Parliament should be convened to adopt a resolution announcing the ‘National
War on Terrorism’.
roots of terrorism lie in sectarianism, extremism and takfiriyat—
excommunicating Muslims—declaring them apostates or disbelievers. A total ban
should be imposed on issuance of fatwas that declare others non-Muslims and
strict punishments be prescribed for takfiris—those who excommunicate any
should be an immediate ban on Madrassas and religious parties, organisations
and individuals from receiving foreign funding.
Education Centres need to be established in order to launch an awareness
campaign so that terrorists cannot brainwash or blackmail simple people.
should be placed upon all literature that spawns and promotes hatred,
sectarianism, militancy and terrorism.
anti-terrorist courts, bodies, para-military forces and agencies that are
working on eliminating terrorism should be placed under direct control of armed
military should be better equipped to deal with the menace of terrorism and its
budget should be reasonably increased for the purpose.
government should set up special institutions/rehabilitation centres to
educate, nurture and take care of children and youngsters who have been
orphaned by terrorism, Drone attacks or operations against terrorism, in the
tribal areas, Balochistan, KPK and other areas. After their education is
complete, they should be provided with special grants and employment to enable
them live as peaceful citizens. Or they can end up in the hands of militants
and become suicide bombers or in the hands of sectarian institutions and become
confusion about war on terrorism should be declared as national criminals.
is serious, I offer to voluntarily provide teachers and curriculum for peace
should be carried out for elimination of terrorism. West even ignored human
rights while legislating against terrorism.
can never be eradicated unless terrorism breeding nurseries are uprooted.
will have to be made moderate by steering the youth out of ideological
are serious and not hypocrite, then war against terrorism should be declared as
our own war at national level”
Rational asks, "why the Muhaditheen can't be considered liars or fabricators or enemies of the prophet and his companions if that incident never happened and they recorded it." . . .
Who cares? Do you think these are intelligent questions?
following Fatwa that was issued by Shaykh Abdallah Bin Bayyah in response to
ISIS is very good to read.
IMAM ALI BURN THE KHARIJITES?
on a website that Ali ibn Abu Talib (may Allah be pleased with him) burnt some
of the Kharitjites during his caliphate. But this made me confused due to the
hadith we know where the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) forbad
torturing others with fire since this is a sort of associating others with
Allah. So how did Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) do this?
upon you is the peace of Allah, together with his mercy and blessings.
report was narrated by al-Bukhary (6922) on the authority of `Ikrimah who said:
Heretics were brought before Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) and he burnt them.
When Ibn `Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) was informed about this, he
said, “If I were in his place, I would not have burnt them for the Messenger of
Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) forbad this saying, “Do not torment
with the torment of Allah” and I would have killed them, for the Messenger of
Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “Whoever changes his religion,
kill him.”" When a deviant group called al-Saba’iyyah, who were the
followers of the Jewish `Abdullah ibn Saba’, went astray and believed that Ali
(may Allah be pleased with him) was a god – we seek refuge with Allah from this
– he (Ali) set them on fire and said, “When I saw such an enormous evil, I set
them on fire and called.” Besides, this issue is a particular case that has
no general application, as al-Shatiby said.
general, there are many interpretations concerning this report, whether he
burnt them after he had killed them, or he was just about to burn them but he
did not. Whatever the case was, this was an opinion viewed by a companion that
has nothing to do with associating gods with Allah. Burning a person is not
permissible in the Shari`ah; but this does not amount to associating others
with Allah. Associating others with Allah means to worship another god with
Allah or to believe in other gods with Almighty Allah. Yes, the Prophet
(peace and blessings be upon him) forbad burning others and said “None should
torment with fire except Allah.” [Reported by al-Bukhary (3016)]
this does not mean that whoever burns others with fire is considered as
associating others with Allah. It rather means that this punishment is a
punishment in the Hereafter, not in this world. This is what we should believe.
The issue has no relation to associating others with Allah. As mentioned
above, this interpretation may prove untrue. Perhaps he intended to burn them
but he did not or he intended to burn them after killing them. Even if he
actually burnt them, this would be a kind of ijtihad from a companion that
disagrees with the text. The ultimate reference is always to the text.
Nonetheless, we have to believe that they acted according to their ijtihad and
that they are illuminating guides.”
Dear Ghulam Ghaus Sb,
People go on quoting Ahadith and calling them the second foundation of Islam but do not always apply the discretion and wisdom that is required while quoting them. Reason is very simple. Great many forged, fabricated, speculative, legendary and inaccurate material inevitably entered the Hadith corpus as you will know well and is spelled out in my following referenced article that still awaits your comment.
Evolution of Hadith Sciences and Need for Major Paradigm Shift in Role of Hadith Corpus and Scope of Madrasa Education
I am quoting below the Section 1 of the article to caution all commentators against quoting Ahadith that conflict with the Qur'anic message and are deemed week:
The Early Imam’s warnings against the authenticity of the Ahadith they compiled.
“Why do people impose conditions which are not in Allah’s book (Kitab il lah)? Whoever imposes such conditions as are not in Allah’s Laws (Kitab il lah), then that condition is invalid even if he imposes one hundred such conditions, for Allah’s conditions (as stated in the Qur’an) are truth and more valid” - Imam al-Bukhari .
"If we discuss about all those accounts which are held authentic (Sahih) before the learned, and suspect by a critical scholar (who demands a proof of personal meeting between the narrators and transmitters of Hadith in each generation), - we would simply be tired (because they are so large in number)." …‘This argument is novel in its approach, and it is wrong that early scholars did not believe in this. Neither is its denial by those who came later, any ground for its repudiation... and God is there to help repudiate what is wrong in the religion of the learned and I trust in Him” – Imam Muslim .
These quotations from the two foremost pioneers of Hadith compilation may be shocking to those who regard the Hadith as a form of divine revelation side by side with or complementary to the Qur’an. But truth must be told as the Western world cites weak and forged Hadiths (technically Ahadith) selectively to demonize Islam, while many educated Muslims, ignorant of the historicity of the Hadith sciences, cite weak Hadiths selectively despite the compilers’ warning against them [2,3].
Kindly read the article time permitting and comment.
Regarding any of my suggestion, please use your own judgment in following up or deferring it for a later time.
Full Text of Muslim Theologians' Open Letter to Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, Refuting His Ideology of Jihad That Justifies Killings of Innocent Civilians, Muslims and Non-Muslims”
I wonder if you have read the original Arabic version of the denouncement letter to ISIS Chief from 120 Islamic scholars from across the world. I have read the remarks by Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council of American-Islamic Relations, who released it in Washington. He said, “Even translated into English, the letter will still sound alien to most Americans.”
The thing is the 18 page letter in Arabic refutes each of the claims of Abu Bakr Siddiq, point by point, and demonstrates that what he is doing is out and out anti-Islamic. However, the denunciation falls short of paralleling him with the Kharijites of early Islam who were deemed to have lost allegiance to the faith of Islam, were treated as terrorist apostate of Islam and hunted down and killed (target-killed).
The article I referenced is easy to read, runs hardly three pages, is backed by the Qur’an and authentic historical record, challenges ISIS leadership’s claim to the faith of Islam, and can be read and understood by millions and millions of Muslim youth, who can neither access the 18 page denunciation nor understand its highly technical language. Thus the article can be far more effective in curbing his influence and debunking the charm of ISIS and militant jihad.
My suggestion: Please post an Urdu, Arabic and French version without delay. The English version can be reposted as the opening peace. You and your forum need the conviction of faith to challenge the neo-Kharijites (ISIS, Boko Haram and the likes) for unless your faith is strong enough you cannot challenge the faith of the others. In any case, the article draws on historical synergy for passing a “capital punishment” in the spiritual realm and lets the Qur’an and the early history of Islam pass the verdict.
By the way, you are right to assert that the suggestion that Hazrat Ali burned the Kharijites is false and obviously a later era accretion to getting rid of the Kharijites even by burning them alive. But I know, burning human alive is totally forbidden in Islamic law, though some people have tried to argue that the Prophet first gave permission in its favour and later retracted. But you know the problem with secondary sources, it is punctuated if not loaded with apocryphal material. This is the reason that I try to build all my arguments around the Qur’an and draw only on those elements of the secondary sources that do not conflict with it.
As it has happened throughout the history of Islam, the most pervert and immoral lot focus on what is the weakest and most bizarre in Islamic Medieval discourses/ Sharia Law – somewhat like vultures who peck at the piles of the guts, the organs and the offal and all that stinks for fresh meat does not appeal them.
Rational asks Ghaus sb., "What is your proof it is false? . . .
The burden of proof is on the one who alleges, not on the one who calls the allegation false.
Mr Rational, you say, "it also must be remembered hz Ali burned alive some of them."
This is false, false, false, false, false hundred % false.
Muhammad Yunus Sb,
article says, “120 widely approved Muslim scholars from around the world
approved an open letter to the head of ISIL, Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, denouncing
his terrorist group as anti-Islamic. The letter based upon the irrefutable
references taken from the Qur’an and Hadith and released on Sep. 24, 2014
refutes the fanatical ideas of Mr. Ibrahim and the extremist ideologies of ISIL
members committing the larger and more sweeping barbarism that has so far
engulfed two Muslim countries, Iraq and Syria.
letter can be summarised in the following paragraph: it is forbidden in Islam
to kill innocent lives including Muslims, non-Muslims, emissaries, ambassadors,
diplomats, journalists, aid workers, priests etc. Ignoring the reality of
contemporary times is forbidden when issuing legal rulings. Jihad in Islam is
merely a defensive war. It is not allowed in Islam to label any Muslim with
Kufr unless he or she openly declares disbelief. All these acts—forcing people
to convert, denying women, children of their rights, torturing the people,
disfiguring the dead and attributing the evil and terrorist acts to God
Almighty and demolishing the shrines and graves of any one of the holy Prophets
and companions—are strictly forbidden in Islam.”
is good. I have read the names of all widely renowned 120 scholars. However, we
Muslims should not think it enough; rather we should work more and more to
circulate such beautiful Islamic teachings of peace, brotherhood, tolerance and
patience. Besides, i also need to obey your advice. Inshallah, I will do
circulate your article among Ulemas.
I hope you are aware that Caliph Ali likened the Kharijites with mad dogs. His logic: a mad dog transmits its venom into its victim and turns him mad and his victim does the same thing, causing an endless increase in their number unless they are eliminated. He therefore treated them as having lost their claim to faith, fought against them and killed them, despite their profound devotion to the Islamic spirituality – prayers, Qur’anic recitation, austere living, literalist compliance with Sunnah. The terror outfits like ISIS and Boko Haram are no different from the Kharijites as expounded in my following article that calls upon the international Ulema fraternity to issue a fatwa against them following the precedent of Caliph Ali. A fatwa from the heartland of Islam could be most effective. But if they take too long, these neo-Kharjiite will endanger the survival of their monarchy and may even eye their country as the natural capital of an (un)Islamic Caliphate. You may circulate my article among the Ulema fraternity to get a fatwa issued by the Indian Ulema – before it is too late.
Call For International Fatwas To Declare The Terrorists Who Advocate Wanton Killing Of Innocent People In The Name Of Islam As ‘Terrorist Apostates’, Like The Kharijites Of Early Islam
Now to your question, why are the Muslims blamed for violence is simply because the ISIS, Boko Haram and other terror outfits are perpetrating violence in the name of Islam. As long as the Muslims shelter them as co-religionists, they will be identified with them and regardless of how many Muslims are killed, Islam will be perceived as a cult of violence.
At this tumultuous time, is there any way out to come out of this great
I think, if you have no knowledge of true Islam, you better be at peace and
silence in any corner of your house, hiding your face inside. And if you have
true knowledge of Islam, so please come out of your house and defend your
Islam, defend your true fellow Muslims from two types of problems mentioned in the
last comment under this thread.
Muslims are being killed more than any other religious adherent, even then
Muslims are being portrayed as violent.
What a web of problem!
No need to be confused, it is so-called Muslims who are killing real Muslims.
Others are doing, what?
They are portraying Muslims as violent, without any discrimination between so-called
Muslims and real Muslims.
As a result, the real Muslims are facing problems from both sides; one side
is killing them and other one is portraying them as violent.
What a great dilemma for real Muslims!
Dear Muhammad Yunus Sahib, Assalam Alaikum.
ton for adding the Quranic references that prohibit every kind of barbarism,
terrorism, extremism, fanaticism and encouraging me to do more work to
propagate true version of Islam with miraculously peaceful meanings of the
Quran that can easily inculcate the factual understanding and truly humanistic
approach of Islam even into minds of the laymen.